@FunCycle looking forward to your post with updates and results as well as how you get it to fit to the alpha CAI since that is also what i have.
Second that @Neosolidus
@FunCycle looking forward to your post with updates and results as well as how you get it to fit to the alpha CAI since that is also what i have.
Second that @Neosolidus
We've been busy. We've been very, very busy
Shipping starts this week, have a couple in this run that aren't already spoken for, so now's the chance!
@Bill from Hahn RaceCraft.... That white one looks EXCELLENT
Indeed it is! While it will look like the one all the way to the right, it will actually be one of the others, some of which leave for powder coating tomorrow. Usually that's about a week of turnover time, then off to you it goes!
I am almost ready for the HAPPY DANCE!
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Now available is our new Slingshot StreetRace Billet Intake Manifold, and I’d like to acquaint you all with its features and design strategy. This is a product we’ve refined for years on other Ecotec applications, and this version for Slingshot is truly its most advanced iteration yet.
The Objectives
We’ve addressed these primary advantages with the Street Race Intake Manifold:
1. Increased upper-RPM power, for all the right reasons.
2. Decreased midrange torque, so as to control Slingshot’s tendency to wheelspin.
3. Aesthetic improvement, as the stock plastic intake manifold is rather pedestrian in appearance.
4. Greater durability in boosted applications, turbo or supercharged, where the stock thin-wall plastic intake can be prone to damage from internal pressure.
5. Provide a proper foundation for our PortFueler EMS system, which is aimed at boosted and nitrous oxide applications.
Let’s take them one at a time:
1. The shorter intake runners (as compared to stock) provide considerably less resistance to flow, which improves high-RPM power. The difference can be seen in the dyno graph, as well as on the road. We’ve developed 184 WHP with this intake manifold on an otherwise stock engine, save for our CoolRam Intake (which is now also available in a coordinated package with this StreetRace intake manifold), and our own free-flowing exhaust. Further demonstrating this notable improvement is the fact that this performance was achieved with a stock PCM tune and stock exhaust manifold. We’re confident that now, with the restrictive stock intake manifold out of the picture, we’ll be able to even further leverage the capabilities of a tubular header and PCM tuning, the positive capabilities of each now able to be more fully utilized. Next goal is 190 WHP, and who knows…we may even be able to achieve that Holy Grail of 200 naturally-aspirated wheel HP!
184 WHP already with only an intake and exhaust...and we're just getting started! This dyno comparison dramatically shows the increase in power overall, but particularly at high RPM. Where the stock Slingshot sees power diminish above 5500 RPM, the StreetRace Manifold-equipped engine keeps on pulling harder and harder all the way to 6500. Look how much more power we have at 6000 RPM...30+ more HP, as well as 25+ more ft lbs. of torque!
A notable feature is the tapered runners. We’ve experimented to a great degree here, and the result is a taper ratio which delivers the ideal blend of high-RPM flow and optimized midrange performance. The essential concept here is that by tapering the runners, we can increase velocity of the charge at the entry to the intake port, which assists flow and results in HP and torque gains as compared to a straight runner. It’s rather a “best of both worlds approach, and practically all high-end intake manifolds use the concept.
Tapered runners for the best flow, HP and torque.
2. The shorter runners also remove some low-end torque. While this may at first sound undesirable, we must consider that the Ecotec 2.4 we use was engineered to provide an ample, broad torque curve so as to be very user-friendly in heavier automotive applications. Slingshot’s limited traction ultimately makes this a bit of a mismatch, and trading away some of that torque actually makes it easier to drive hard without so frequently spinning the tire. The machine is not only faster with the new intake manifold due to the power added at high RPM, it is more tractable on the street, and not so prone to wheelspin.
3. Not much needs to be said here…we worked very hard to nestle this manifold design efficiently into the rather constrained Slingshot engine compartment, and the results speak for themselves insofar as improved appearance over stock. It tucks in wonderfully, and looks wonderful too! Note the angled runners, as this is our first application of this intake manifold design with them. They look great, and enabled us to properly package this concept in Slingshot.
Looks like it just belongs there, doesn't it?
4. The stock plastic intake manifold responds well enough to lower boost pressures, but we’ve been working with these devils for over 15 years, and have seen more than a couple give up the fight when internally pressurized with boost, with of course a greater chance of rupture the higher the boost pressure. This StreetRace intake manifold design is proven durable at 30+ PSI of boost, and has made as much as 750 engine HP in other Ecotec applications we’ve done. It’s already a proven player!
This view inside the plenum shows off the runner entries, radius machined for best flow and least turbulence.
5. Also for boosted (turbo or supercharged) and/or nitrous oxide applications, our new PortFueler EMS can be enabled as an option on the StreetRace manifold, which consists of us installing a fuel rail and four injector bosses. In such installations, the engine runs on eight injectors, four stock and four controlled by PortFueler EMS. The StreetRace Intake manifold is shown on our website with this as an option, as it can be ordered either with or without the PortFueler option. As an aside, should a customer wish us to install the PortFueler capability to their existing StreetRace manifold at a later date, we are able to do so. I’ll be firing up an informative thread on this exciting new PortFueler EMS system next.
So that’s the overview. We’ve already well-proved out the performance of the manifold in both normally aspirated as well as boosted testing, netting 184 WHP N/A (so far!), and 413 WHP SST TurboSystem-boosted on 93 octane gas - of course, that was with our new Built for Boost (BFB) engine, another new option about to emerge. As such, we are well into development, well past the validation stage, justifiably proud of the results, and ready to serve the needs of the Slingshot community! Needless to say, as a new and complex product to manufacture, we’ll need a few weeks to get up to speed, but once we’re there, we’ll be keeping them in stock or near-ready for much faster shipment.
As our webpage also indicates, we can provide StreetRace Intake Manifold with a coordinated CoolRam intake system. As to integrating the StreetRace Intake Manifold with existing intake systems, we were careful to relocate the throttle body in the typical piping path for existing intake systems, as well as forced induction options. As such, adapting to your existing system should be very straightforward…in the instance of our own SST TurboSystem, all we had to do was trim the pipe a few inches shorter.
Installation is basically a bolt-on affair. While we include a plug-in extension harness for the MAP sensor, one will have to manually extend the throttle body wiring to accommodate its new location…a bit of cut and splice is all it takes, and if one has already installed an intake with a relocated throttle body, that already- extended harness may fit as is. We’ve even included a bracket under the intake to properly mount the dipstick tube. We've included a variety of signal hose options in common NPT pipe thread sizes, as well as a drop-in port for MAP sensor.
I’m interested in any and all questions, but I would add that questions about PortFueler EMS and our BFB engines may be referred to the threads I’ll introduce for them in the days to come. Thanks for listening, and talk to me!
Do you have any updated dynos with the headers added to the NA mix?????????
Do you have any updated dynos with the headers added to the NA mix?????
Thanks for asking! We are revisiting this later this month, and will explore further enhancements like a performance header replacing the stock exhaust manifold, a tuned PCM...as well as some other basic tweaks. We will keep you all posted here!
Came home to a nice little package - Thanks @Bill from Hahn RaceCraft
Looking to creat a little more HP, HalTech Next
Display MoreCame home to a nice little package - Thanks @Bill from Hahn RaceCraft
Looking to creat a little more HP, HalTech Next
So the white one was yours after all
Display MoreCame home to a nice little package - Thanks @Bill from Hahn RaceCraft
Looking to creat a little more HP, HalTech Next
Maybe my red one next week
Looking to creat a little more HP, HalTech Next
Then cams maybe?
Then cams maybe?
Your reading my MIND — get out my head!, LMAO. YES, I am hopeful
Your reading my MIND — get out my head!, LMAO. YES, I am hopeful
Good for you sir! Will be watching.
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They built it and took it to Daytona two years ago but as I understand, it was not finished, tuned, or running on boost .... could be wrong but I don't remember seeing it completed. Thought the first ones owner sold his Sling shortly after.
I think the same intake (same type or maybe the same one ... dunno.. ) is on the dual turbo he is building but have not seen any updates on that one in months ....
I would think with the time invested if it was running and tuned it would be something they would want to show off ........
Maybe @VooDoo Fab knows .... he was involved in the first one ....
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It's not on the forums so it must not be true! I've built 4 single turbo Slings and the one Twin setup, each had an intake manifold. Outside of those I have built 20 intake manifolds, have 4 still here at the shop, the rest are all sold and out and about somewhere on Slingshots. I am no longer building any production Slingshot products except our roof system. Still do custom installs/setups as I care to take on in house only, and those mainly colabs with Bullet/Bob on his quad kits at his request. Slingshot parts have always been less than 10% of my business. Only because good old Unified Performace/Richard Kwan ripped me off of $50,000 worth of product did I even get in the market in the first place. I've recouped my loss, and market is no longer worth my time honestly, so I'm back to my core business, 1000whp+ BMW's and parts to support them as I've been doing for over 10 years now.
-Shawn-
ANy updates......
I have just finished installing the Hahn Intake manifold. I have not driven but a few miles so far and the one thing that I do notice is that it pulls right on up to the red line. Also with the wore out BFG Comp 2 it looks like it just might light it up in second and in third gear at the bottom of the power band just by punching the gas. More Power is good. The better to keep up with @MACAWS THANK YOU
I have just finished installing the Hahn Intake manifold. I have not driven but a few miles so far and the one thing that I do notice is that it pulls right on up to the red line. Also with the wore out BFG Comp 2 it looks like it just might light it up in second and in third gear at the bottom of the power band just by punching the gas. More Power is good. The better to keep up with @MACAWS THANK YOU
Please let me know if you want to do a before and after dyno of the intake manifold, we would love to test that one out, so far all of the intake manifolds we have tested on Ecotec's have given less than stellar results. The dyno Bill posted up was of a stock Slingshot vs. one with a tune, catless exhaust, intake and intake manifold and we would love to see a true apples to apples dyno. If you are interested, just let me know.
Please let me know if you want to do a before and after dyno of the intake manifold, we would love to test that one out, so far all of the intake manifolds we have tested on Ecotec's have given less than stellar results. The dyno Bill posted up was of a stock Slingshot vs. one with a tune, catless exhaust, intake and intake manifold and we would love to see a true apples to apples dyno. If you are interested, just let me know.
Already changed out and there is nothing else I can add unless you have that cam ready for install on the NA. I have the Bob's tune the 1320 header and the Welter duals with the Hahn intake and the Hahn CAI. Also with no cat, that was the first thing that I did and of course you already know the difference that makes. If I get back up there we can put it on the Dyno and find out. I would like to get another track day to just see the difference also.
I have just finished installing the Hahn Intake manifold. I have not driven but a few miles so far and the one thing that I do notice is that it pulls right on up to the red line. Also with the wore out BFG Comp 2 it looks like it just might light it up in second and in third gear at the bottom of the power band just by punching the gas. More Power is good. The better to keep up with @MACAWS THANK YOU
Thanks for the feedback.... Mines is still siting in the garage in the box. Please share more after you really get your foot into it . Give us some unofficial butt dyno numbers.