Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    Quote from Bill Martin

    I’m probably further to the right than my good friend the @thesabrerattler but could not agree with this statement more. Sadly civil discourse has become a thing of the past and needs to be resurrected post haste !!

    Try peddling down the middle of the road, you can't get anyone to agree with you!

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    Agreat quote/response

    During a recent press conference, a reporter with MSNBChollered from the press corps, "Where is President Trump hiding his taxreturns?"

    PressSecretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, astutely responded, "We've found a verysecure
    place and I'm certain they won't be found."


    "Andjust where is that?", said the reporter, sarcastically.


    Mrs.Sanders grinned sardonically and said, "They are underneath Obama'scollegerecords, his passport application, his immigration status as astudent,his funding sources to pay for college, his college records, andhis SelectiveService registration.”


    "Nextquestion?"

    An open letter to the NFL players,


    You graduated high school in 2011. Your teenage years were a struggle. You grew up on the wrong side of the tracks.. Your mother was the leader of the family and worked tirelessly to keep a roof over your head and food on your plate. Academics were a struggle for you and your grades were mediocre at best. The only thing that made you stand out is you weighed 225 lbs and could run 40 yards in 4.2 seconds while carrying a football. Your best friend was just like you, except he didn’t play football. Instead of going to football practice after school, he went to work at McDonalds for minimum wage. You were recruited by all the big colleges and spent every weekend of your senior year making visits to universities where coaches and boosters tried to convince you their school was best. They laid out the red carpet for you. Your best friend worked double shifts at Mickey D’s. College was not an option for him. On the day you signed with Big State University, your best friend signed paperwork with his Army recruiter. You went to summer workouts. He went to basic training.
    You spent the next four years living in the athletic dorm, eating at the training table. You spent your Saturdays on the football field, cheered on by adoring fans. Tutors attended to your every academic need. You attended class when you felt like it... Sure, you worked hard. You lifted weights, ran sprints, studied plays, and soon became one of the top football players in the country. Your best friend was assigned to the 101st Airborne Division. While you were in college, he deployed to Iraq once and Afghanistan twice. He became a Sergeant and led a squad of 19 year old soldiers who grew up just like he did.. He shed his blood in Afghanistan and watched young American's give their lives, limbs, and innocence for the USA.
    You went to the NFL combine and scored off the charts. You hired an agent and waited for draft day. You were drafted in the first round and your agent immediately went to work, ensuring that you received the most money possible. You signed for $16 million although you had never played a single down of professional football. Your best friend re-enlisted in the Army for four more years. As a combat tested sergeant, he will be paid $32,000 per year.
    You will drive a Ferrari on the streets of South Beach. He will ride in the back of a Blackhawk helicopter with 10 other combat loaded soldiers. You will sleep at the Ritz. He will dig a hole in the ground and try to sleep. You will “make it rain” in the club. He will pray for rain as the temperature reaches 120 degrees.
    On Sunday, you will run into a stadium as tens of thousands of fans cheer and yell your name. For your best friend, there is little difference between Sunday and any other day of the week. There are no adoring fans. There are only people trying to kill him and his soldiers... Every now and then, he and his soldiers leave the front lines and “go to the rear” to rest. He might be lucky enough to catch an NFL game on TV. When the National Anthem plays and you take a knee, he will jump to his feet and salute the television. While you protest the unfairness of life in the United States, he will give thanks to God that he has the honor of defending his great country.
    To the players of the NFL: We are the people who buy your tickets, watch you on TV, and wear your jerseys. We anxiously wait for Sundays so we can cheer for you and marvel at your athleticism. Although we love to watch you play, we care little about your opinions until you offend us. You have the absolute right to express yourselves, but we have the absolute right to boycott you. We have tolerated your drug use and DUIs, your domestic violence, and your vulgar displays of wealth. We should be ashamed for putting our admiration of your physical skills before what is morally right. But now you have gone too far. You have insulted our flag, our country, our soldiers, our police officers, and our veterans. You are living the American dream, yet you disparage our great country. I am done with NFL football and encourage all like minded Americans to boycott the NFL as well.

    I Have No more toys, just memories.... :/

    To start off with the implication that the NFL players, especially those who are taking a knee, struggled as teens, lived on the wrong side of the tracks, that they came from homes where their mothers were the leaders of the family.....


    The implication of this stereotypical racist garbage is why we have the problems that we do. This is the reason they are taking a knee. They are taking a knee because people who pen letters like this continue to create a racial divide. They are taking a knee because they run into stadiums to entertain millions over a weekend but are still subjected to racial profiling. They are taking a knee because it shows more strength than it does to throw a punch. They are taking a knee despite the hatred, the words and the blowback they will receive for raising social awareness. They are taking a knee because it isn't the paycheck, the fame that will change the minds of those who choose to take a higher belief that somehow they are inferior. They are taking a knee because they are tired...tired of the garbage that they, their family, their friends and loved ones are continually denied the rights that someone in their "family" has fought and perhaps died for.


    All the acts that you attribute to NFL players are found in the professions of doctors, lawyers, accountants, laborers, and "those who serve". Your desire to point out the failures of those in the public eye, without any mention to those who contribute to their communities is another reason they are taking a knee. You want to use the military as a launching point... why does the military have a drug testing program? Why do the military routinely put soldiers out of the service for the use of drugs? The same 18 year olds who enter the military with a drug history continue it, and some pick it up. Why does the military have domestic violence counseling? Why do soldiers receive Article 15's for the violence they levy against family members? What about those members that are escorted to Leavenworth?


    Your shame should be that you don't see that we have a societal problem. It is not only concentrated to the military but it is rampant. The moral decisions that the every day person makes isn't always right. Often those who sit in judgment have at some point in their lives did something dishonest. Perhaps they were a habitual liar that injured others, a thief, an abuser, a bully and so much more.


    The American dream? Perhaps you see it from a sofa but you don't live their lives, so why sit in judgment of a group of people peacefully kneeling. Did you type of a diatribe when the players were kneeling in prayer after the games. Some of the very players that are kneeling are of the same group of Christian athletes that prayed before and after every game. Yet, the act of kneeling has caused such a fray.


    Every military member who decides to serve raises their hand "voluntarily". They are not forced into service. They are aware of exactly what their contract demands of them, to include "giving their lives if their country calls on them". Every military member raises their hand for personal reasons--some for the college money, some as a family tradition, others because they feel that is their calling. I have yet to stand in a room of potential service members where they have all said they were joining because of the flag.


    Just as the NBA is a means to an end for players. The military service is a means to an end for them also. Some military members sit in an air conditioned office eighty to ninety percent of their service years to retirement, yet when they retire they are very patriotic as they claim medical compensation and any benefit that they can acquire. There are service members who never attend sick call while in the service, whether injured or not. They take their military service to heart. They live and breathe to serve our country. They don't complain about who's in office, as they swore they'd follow....


    It's funny, that I was able to watch a few military documentaries this morning on "my day". Military history...sometimes you leave the service but it never leaves you. You have a true sense of respect for all of those who serve, past and present. Yet, somehow you always keep an honest view without over glorifying what essentially is a job. Some jobs are high profile--some are not. Some jobs you're in front of the camera, others you are behind the scenes ensuring that those who are can continue doing what they choose to do.


    Almost the simple definition of a military members job would require one to function in a role that entitles everyone the freedom and liberty to do all things that the Constitution and laws direct. There may never be a public recognition but when you're doing it for the love of country and God--it suffices.


    So, if kneeling is an issue to you, turn the channel, go for a walk or run, spend time with your family and convert that negative energy to something positive. Perhaps if you have so much hatred and anger--perhaps you have a problem that needs to be addressed between you and God, or you and your pastor, or you and whomever you think would be honest in giving you a view that makes you happy.


    If boycotting football would bring about change, awesome! If not, let them keep kneeling. Burn your jerseys, season tickets, any and all gear related to football. Scratch off one more sporting activity that gives you an excuse to gather drink, gamble and act out rudely (to the fans who do not no offense).


    Until you understand the problem, you want step to the table with a solution. The longer you inflame the problem and make it worse--you won't contribute to anything positive.


    Ask yourself: Why am I angry? Does the act or behavior that offends me harms me emotionally, mentally, physically or spiritually? Does it change who I am as a person? Does the act have any merit? How can I contribute to the removal of the act in a positive manner? Does it benefit the world for me to act out negatively, neutrally or positively? Does my actions solicit others to respond in a negative manner?


    I'm pretty sure once you answer those questions, it will be easy to push away from the keyboard or continue in a berating manner to anyone whoever may offend you by their actions.


    I have and always will support those in the military. I have and always will support those who have the strength to stand up for something that is wrong in our world. There are those who have stormed the shores of beaches under distress. There are those who have sat at lunch counters under distress. Both defending what our Constitution and laws dictate is afforded to us all. There are those who truly defend against an enemy at the 38th parallel daily. There were those who walked arm in arm while dogs were unleashed on them, water hoses..yet they persevered. Stop leveraging one group over another, that is the problem. Open your eyes to something greater than your opinion. Let good win over evil, and recognize which master you serve.


    Try smiling? Try using the gained football time to converse with God and read some scriptures. If you're not a religious person, try finding something positive to do in your community. Wrath is and never will be mine... I pray hatred stays out of my heart... If I offend my brother I pray they accept my sincere apology.


    Zora"SMILES"
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    #Eph 6:10-20
    #Matt 5:22

    @Zorasmiles - I do not believe that anyone is “spewing hatred” as you accuse. IMHO I think there are a LOT of Americans of all races, creeds and color find kneeling during one of the most sacred acts of patriotism to be highly distasteful and disrespectful to those that fought and died for our flag. If these NFL or any other pro atheletes wanna really protest - let em sit out from playing until they think things are better. Bet you wouldn’t find a one that is that upset !!! It is not about hate - it is about RESPECT !!!

    I might not be right but I can sure sound like it

    Hell of a reply!


    Talk about being completely racist. The kneeling that is taking place on the field is being done by more than just black players.
    It is your stereotypical type of rant that says to the world..."Racist acts only happen to me"


    As for your uneducated ASSertation of the military being just a job, you show your undying ignorance.


    All things you post from now on will be heard as ........ nothing, because they are hollow in any space but your own.


    To glorify your your reply in the name of the Lord speaks of your character most.

    Thanks @Slingrazor I was waiting for someone to do a comeback besides me. The most racist people to me are the same ones that bring it up all of the time.

    @Bill Martin if it isn't about hatred, why the negative portrait of who they are as a person. Negative views tend to spread hate for an idea. Which occasionally turns into negative actions physically as they lash out. Why is it that most that I know, to include myself, my wife, those that I served with, the military members that I worked besides all think that they are exercising the rights that our service afford them. In discussions with those who are not happy with the kneeling they have agreed that the act does not tarnish what we all set out to do. The bringing of disrespect is when others use our service for their own self serving needs and political debates. As one soldier put it to me "Sir, they never worry about us until there is a photo op, a military ceremony or we're needed as poster children for a cause. They leave us out of everything else, why don't they please not bring us into this. We serve along side those who believe in what those are kneeling for and those who disagree. Yet we all believe that it is because of us, our actions--they can do this. Our service even affords those who desire to use those who've come before and will come after us, to drive home their point."


    Remember the athletes have entered into lock outs and of course everyone whined and complained they'd never watch another game..each time. Now, those same people are complaining about the kneeling. I bet if they kept their promise the first time, we wouldn't be having this dialogue.


    See, you see it as "disrespectful" because it isn't convenient for you, or those around you. They see it as convenient because it is the largest arena that they could protest and bring light to the issues. As I suggested, do the questions. Kap isn't being paid, he isn't playing. He made his choice and team owners made theirs. This same thing happened in Denver Nuggets basketball years ago and few will remember. This isn't the first time. Other athletes did it standing on a podium with their fists raised.


    When you have to tear at the character of a group of people to try and drive home your point, when that isn't the issue--it's coming from your hatred of what has offended you. When you have to post that response, whether you agree or not, you are supporting that hatred. When you click like and say awesome, you are contributing to that negative stereotyping and that hate.


    I call it like I see it.

    Sounds like I struck a nerve. I am far from a racist. I find it funny that you can find some type of racist insight into my response and yet you find nothing wrong with previous post.


    I know that I am judged by the company I keep so block me and keep me hollow to you, Funcycle and anyone else who chooses to do so.


    I don't post for your likes. I don't post for your favors. Keep that in mind.


    LOL@me being racist LOL

    I believe this subject has been discussed far enough and I think everyone has made it clear what side of this issue they are on. I see nothing fruitful coming forth. Let’s move on to something else - lord knows there are plenty other political problems to debate that would be much more interesting.... PEACE OUT...

    I might not be right but I can sure sound like it

    I don't know if it's an upgrade or downgrade....called Conservative this morning...and leftist this morning. I tell you what SlingRazor, to make your day...tell me which group you see yourself in and I work hard to be in the opposite. Yes, this is sarcasm in case you can't figure that one out. Honestly, my intents aren't meant to ever anger but if you're angered and I am not, if you're upset and I'm smiling...it goes to show you that...never mind..you wouldn't understand. Sometimes you just have to pray over it.


    Good suggestion that we move on...perhaps we can discuss how Puerto Rico has thrown the budget off, climate change, or Pence's speech at NASA. Naah, those are boring. We don't want to get into second amendment rights, or perhaps we do--not. Yet they are all on table and so much more. I have it--term limits!