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  • the wall won't immediately secure the border, but it is a start and we do have to start someplace don't we?


    if not with a wall, where would you have us start - seriously what steps would you take that would be a better start?

    A couple dedicated satellites that capture motion and heat signatures that can relay positions to boots on the ground. Walls only by population centers to divert people to open areas where they can't hide from the satellites.

  • A couple dedicated satellites that capture motion and heat signatures that can relay positions to boots on the ground. Walls only by population centers to divert people to open areas where they can't hide from the satellites.

    But, you would still have to increase the man power on the border patrol to be able to get to these places and when they run short of money guess what get's cut "MANPOWER". In a perfect world it might would work WOLF. Also, you still have to enforce the laws that we have.

  • It’s not a matter of catching them, we catch and release like fish.


    They are also voting in Cali and changing the outcome of legal voting.


    They need to understand our constitution and abide by it and learn English and use it.





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  • A couple dedicated satellites that capture motion and heat signatures that can relay positions to boots on the ground. Walls only by population centers to divert people to open areas where they can't hide from the satellites.

    Okay - I can live with this as a start, but isnt that a bit like what they are trying to do with the wall they are trying to fund - to build it in places where it can divert the illegal border traffic to where it is easier to stop them?


    Also do you think the left would give Trump his funding if he said it would go to the needed satellites and boots on the ground?


    I personally think the left would be against any approach that could be seen by people as a Trump victory - - am I wrong?

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  • Okay - I can live with this as a start, but isnt that a bit like what they are trying to do with the wall they are trying to fund - to build it in places where it can divert the illegal border traffic to where it is easier to stop them?


    Also do you think the left would give Trump his funding if he said it would go to the needed satellites and boots on the ground?


    I personally think the left would be against any approach that could be seen by people as a Trump victory - - am I wrong?

    I agree, but still say they would cut the funding as soon as they thought they could get away with it

  • FunCycle it would probably cut the number of boots on the ground. Instead of blindly patrolling thousands of miles you have a few teams scattered around the border with helicopters that go to the precise area that was crossed. Ground penetrating radar and topography sensors would make it all but impossible to get past.

  • Please, stop comparing the border wall to private property walls. It is a silly comparison. Not only is there billions of houses and businesses to choose from that a wall can deter criminals to.


    Since the wall doesn't cover the entire U.S., you are basically arguing that a property that needs 3000 feet of wall to be completely enclosed can be secured by a well placed 10 foot section of wall.

  • Please, stop comparing the border wall to private property walls. It is a silly comparison. Not only is there billions of houses and businesses to choose from that a wall can deter criminals to.


    Since the wall doesn't cover the entire U.S., you are basically arguing that a property that needs 3000 feet of wall to be completely enclosed can be secured by a well placed 10 foot section of wall.

    So there you go Mathew. We NEED to build a wall completely around the country. Just like a Castle has its moat, we can have our wall. Now if you could just help us change Bernie's mind to anything that actually has a chance to work, we all might have something here

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  • the biggest red herring is when any politician says they want to stop illegal immigration - Neither the left or the right are really serious about this both sides believe that continued illegal immigration benefits them and as such talk about ending it is just a bunch of BS intended to placate voters


    If they really wanted to stop it they could do so at very little to no cost by simply enforcing the employment laws already on the books.

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  • So there you go Mathew. We NEED to build a wall completely around the country. Just like a Castle has its moat, we can have our wall. Now if you could just help us change Bernie's mind to anything that actually has a chance to work, we all might have something here

    Trump would fight against that wall. He doesn't want one on the shores of Mar a lago.:P

  • Trump would fight against that wall. He doesn't want one on the shores of Mar a lago.:P

    it would have to be built out at the 12 mile mark

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  • Please, stop comparing the border wall to private property walls. It is a silly comparison. Not only is there billions of houses and businesses to choose from that a wall can deter criminals to.


    Since the wall doesn't cover the entire U.S., you are basically arguing that a property that needs 3000 feet of wall to be completely enclosed can be secured by a well placed 10 foot section of wall.

    Yea, one will cost us money and help clear up a problem the other will not the private land owner pays for his

  • the biggest red herring is when any politician says they want to stop illegal immigration - Neither the left or the right are really serious about this both sides believe that continued illegal immigration benefits them and as such talk about ending it is just a bunch of BS intended to placate voters


    If they really wanted to stop it they could do so at very little to no cost by simply enforcing the employment laws already on the books.

    And it would have been taken care decades ago