Wireless security cameras

  • I bought Blink back when they did their kickstarter, before Amazon bought them. I have 5 or 6 of their cameras in a box on my shelf. The app was always rubbish, couldn't view more than 1 camera at a time, and if you wanted decent motion detection, etc, they went through batteries quick.


    The delay was pretty bad, tried to use one at my door to see/hear people come up. By the time I got the notification, loaded the app, loaded the video, the people were gone.


    Ring seems to have done things a lot better, at least with their door bell setup, but again, the delay can be troublesome if you want to "answer" it, but just viewing/recording, it seems to do better.


    Ring has a $59 camera that uses 110v that looks interesting.


    I also have security cameras up, running off of a linux server for NVR, and they are wired and use PoE (Power over Ethernet) and of course, the data goes over the ethernet. This is a good system I've setup, using Dahua cameras that are fairly inexpensive and good quality. Problem is, my system is all local, if they cut my power and take my server, I have nothing to show the police.


    I don't have the bandwidth to shove that data into the cloud, without encoding it heavily, and then, the video isn't that usable. I may try out one of those ring cameras as a backup to my wired system.


    Also, as to the "cloud", it's a marketing term for servers that are not local to you. Most of the time they are clustered geographically, so if one goes down in a location, everything still runs in another. IT people have been doing this for decades in different data centers, but cloud is just a new term for it.


    Technically, I run a private cloud with my servers. I have one at home, and one 100 miles away at a colo. They keep data synced between the two. It's not cheap, but it works well for my uses.

  • You can hide it in the attic. They arnt going to take time to go up there and look around. But I can access my cloud that’s at my IL house from here in FL. Just need internet. I have a home Brinks alarm system and can even tie the cameras to that if I want. I would call backstreet with your questions as they are the experts and I know they way more than I do.



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  • just so you know Ring has their elite line of cameras and doorbells that use PoE - - they cost a bit more and of course they need the hard wiring, but if you already have the wiring they might be worth the extra $$


    Also Blinks newer XT2 cameras are supposed to be much better than the older setup from before Amazon from what I have read

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  • one thing that is also a plus with the ring cameras and doorbells is that they are guaranteed for life against theft - if some moron thinks taking the camera is a good idea Ring will replace it for free

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  • the best thing would be to store it to your own hard drive....then transfer the video to a hard drive not connected to the internet.....no monthly fee....no hacker has access....

    Bigdog If they rob my home and steal my computer and all of my electronics wont they also get the video of them breaking in? - one of the most stolen things are the electronics - right?


    and transferring it offsite sounds great, but who's going to do that constantly when I am not home if I dont use a cloud service?


    If you want video surveillance that has any real value it needs to be stored offsite automatically in a completely different location to not only protect from theft, but also from fire or other things that could damage it.


    any hard drive or other storage that is in the same location as the one being protected can be rendered worthless by the same event you wanted a record of and is close to worthless.


    even in the low quality "B" movies you see the bad guys eject the surveillance tape and take it when they rob the gas station / liquor store And I can pretty much guarantee you if the bad guys see your cameras on the outside of your home and then rob it anyway they will search for any computers and other storage devices to take with them


    if you dont have automatic offsite storage you might as well not have the cameras - JMO

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  • please tell me how you can have security cameras that have any value if the information they store is only stored locally and can be taken by anyone who wants to defeat the video system?

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    My storage drives for the home and businesses are in my toy room ... if you can find them, and take them, you deserve to have them.


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    My storage drives for the home and businesses are in my toy room ... if you can find them, and take them, you deserve to have them.


    ..... wink-squared

    and if some ass decides to torch your home after robbing it to destroy the evidence?

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    They are safe save a bunker buster .... laugh-squared


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    perfect! - - - sounds like a great system, but I am far to lazy and cheep to set up such a system so for now I will stick with my Ring and Samsung cameras - Rings push everything to the cloud and Samsungs store everything to internal memory cards - - and both alert me when needed and allow live view - - - I am actually looking forward to my 2 new cameras coming tomorrow, my daughter and wife got them for me

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  • just label the hard drive “vacation videos”...


    don’t label it porn....

    crooks like to take all electronics they dont care whats on it - they want to sell it


    also when they torch your house to cover up any evidence you will lose any evidence you might have had in the fire

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  • many years back I had a friend who set up a home security camera system - it was back in the day and it was all hardwired to its own monitor and special slow speed VHS recorder that could get several days on a single tape and would loop and record over itself and the cameras were pretty good, but they were black & white


    eventually his house did get robbed and the only things they took were the entire security camera system, cameras, monitor recorder and all, along with his high end stereo system and his big RCA rear projection TV - - - cops told him at the time that the cameras may have actually drawn attention to crooks indicating that the house probably contained things of value


    these days I dont think cameras draw the same attention with them being so inexpensive and so many people having them it doesnt mean as much as it did back 80's

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  • You can hide it in the attic. They arnt going to take time to go up there and look around. But I can access my cloud that’s at my IL house from here in FL. Just need internet. I have a home Brinks alarm system and can even tie the cameras to that if I want. I would call backstreet with your questions as they are the experts and I know they way more than I do.



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    not so sure I would want electronics in my attic here in the desert - on summer days when it is 110 or more almost daily I suspect my attic gets way too hot to be good for electronics - - but its a great idea for cooler areas of the country :thumbsup:

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  • From a software engineering perspective if you don’t have it in 3 places you don’t actually have it. Hard drives and DVRs fail or can be stolen, Cloud is dependent on internet access your ISP and cloud service provider etc.


    Give it your best effort and be content. If a thief is articulate enough they will get away regardless. The presence of a camera or security system will ward off the less articulate ones. I have one hardwired and 4 google nest camera 1 with overlapping coverage of the hardwired camera. Put a surveillance sign next to your Trump sign.

  • From a software engineering perspective if you don’t have it in 3 places you don’t actually have it. Hard drives and DVRs fail or can be stolen, Cloud is dependent on internet access your ISP and cloud service provider etc.


    Give it your best effort and be content. If a thief is articulate enough they will get away regardless. The presence of a camera or security system will ward off the less articulate ones. I have one hardwired and 4 google nest camera 1 with overlapping coverage of the hardwired camera. Put a surveillance sign next to your Trump sign.

    I believe that security systems and cameras and signs pointing out that there is a dog and all of the other things you can do are as much if not more about making your house less attractive to criminals than anything else - - unless there is something very specific that you have I believe a crook will more often than not try to pick the easiest target and by installing security and then pointing it out we make our neighbors house easier than ours 8o

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