Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion
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"they can't win"??
don't you mean "we" can't win?
Ever since the breakup of the Soviet Union we have been trying to make inroads with former Soviet block countries. We have been constantly trying to get them to move away from their associations with Russia, we have been urging them to embrace democracy. we have been urging them to move their alignments over toward NATO and the United States and all of this time we have been reassuring them "don't worry about Russia! If anything happens we have your back"
no this is not a "they can't win" situation - - this is a giant test of us - - - this is going to show every other country in the world if the U.S. really does stand behind these countries when we tell them we will - If we let Russia reclaim the Ukraine as their territory every promise of protection the United States has ever made to any other country will instantly become worthless.
A bit of both, but to answer your question. YES! I admire their fight it takes tremendous courage on their behalf to stand up to a country massive country much bigger than themself. To stand up to a country they know they can't defeat. Absoulty every other country is watching. China and Iran especially. As in my post some time ago.
Since you so often like to use condescending punctuation and remarks such as "did you even read my post?
My previous post Feb 14th
We'll be very lucky if it is held to Russian aggression. Russia, China & Iran are getting very cozy. At the very least a door has been opened. They're not concerned about proper pronouns, or a green new deal. They're out to win.
Nightmare scenario-China, Russia, Iran all collaborating against U.S. (lawenforcementtoday.com)
Iran, Russia, China kick off joint military drills in Indian Ocean amid growing ties - Pars Today
There are no binding words used here as to physical protection with use of personal. The verbiage is for material support. Ukraine does not have full NATO Membership. The US is not bound as full NATO Countries such as Poland, Germany, and other full membership NATO countries big difference. We have been supplying massive amounts of material support to Ukraine with weapons and material support as in the document.
U.S. Security Cooperation With Ukraine - United States Department of State
The United States has offered further support
remains dedicated to assisting Ukraine
continued commitment
support enhanced engagement
coordinate international efforts and help build Ukraine’s defense capacity to deter further Russian aggression.
committed over $2.7 billion in training and equipment to help Ukraine preserve its territorial integrity, secure its borders,
U.S. security assistance
provision of both non-lethal and lethal defensive items. This includes High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles, tactical Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, secure communications, satellite imagery and analysis support, counter-battery radars, night vision devices and thermal scopes, sniper rifles, and equipment to support military medical treatment and combat evacuation procedures.
security assistance
Foreign Military Sale
Anti-terrorism, Demining, and Related Programs
these efforts serve to protect Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity and to counter Russian aggression in the Sea of Azov and Black Sea through the development of small-boat interdiction and Rapid Response
training, advisory services, and equipment to assist the Government of Ukraine
to address
quantities of conventional arms and ammunition
government funded
NATO Partnership for Peace Trust Fund,
Ukraine is partnered with the California National Guard
to assist
U.S. Security Cooperation With Ukraine - United States Department of State
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Blue countries have full NATO Membership. US flags represent where the U.S. has physical personal assigned to provide protection.
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And my thoughts and prayers go out to your relatives now in one of those NATO countries.
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In Ukraine the citizens are taking up arms to retain their freedom and support their government. Sadly a large number of Americans can't even grasp that concept.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne…ia-bulldozes-Ukraine.html
If these idiots keep it up Putin is gonna believe our whole country is made up of fools - I’m sure climate change is the first thing Putin thinks about when his feet hit the floor ….NOT 😂 -
Tulsi Gabbard always tells it like it is. I like her.
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Tulsi Gabbard always tells it like it is. I like her.
I wrote her in for my vote for prez in the last election.... I like her too...
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Tulsi Gabbard always tells it like it is. I like her.
I thought i liked her but her liberal views killed that.
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Our flawless leader is now in route to Delaware for the weekend. I know, you can do the job from there. But image is everything.
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things keep getting deeper
For the first time ever, NATO deployed its Response Force for collective security amid threats from Russian President Vladimir Putin who said NATO can expect ‘military-technical consequences' if they don't respond to his demands.
"This goes far beyond Ukraine," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warned Friday. "This is about how Russia is actually challenging, contesting core values for our security. Then warning that NATO should withdraw all forces and infrastructure from almost half of our members.
"They said that if we don't do that, if we don't meet their demands, there will be what they call ‘military-technical consequences,'" he added.
the Ukraine is one thing, but if NATO forces get sucked into this thing I suspect that would compel U.S. military involvement
oh - and now Putin is threatening other countries with action if they try to join NATO - Sweden & Finland
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"the Ukraine is one thing, but if NATO forces get sucked into this thing I suspect that would compel U.S. military involvement"
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With Sleepy Joe running things we all better brush up on speaking Russian
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Sure feels like the stage is being set for a new world order and the number two & three players have been setting in waiting.
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One sure way to end this would be a meeting between Putin and Alec Baldwin on a “Western” Front, If ya know what I mean.
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One sure way to end this would be a meeting between Putin and Alec Baldwin on a “Western” Front, If ya know what I mean.
Ha ha... Alec Baldwin's "I didn't pull the trigger" reminds me of Slick Willie, "I didn't inhale".
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I can't recall who posted this earlier or on what thread but the situation in Ukraine sure brings this to mind! Red Dawn wolverines.
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I'm sick of all government's. People do not create wars, governments do! I feel for the Ukrainenians. But my feelings and $1 may get you a cup of coffee.