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    Quote from Sparcky

    and herein lies the problem. Just because its not your way of thinking doesn’t mean its evil. Just because people don’t agree doesn't make one side evil. Until the hardline right gets this (which I won’t hold my breath), things will continue on a similar path. Left will win, moderate GOP will get called RINO and shamed, and hardliner GOPers will keep complaining that everything left of them is evil and wrong. Don’t believe me? Its happening now!!!!

    “Just because its not your way of thinking doesn’t mean its evil. Just because people don’t agree doesn't make one side evil. “


    Hummm Let me clarify. I find many of the positions that the left holds to be evil.


    For me there are absolutes. There are in my opinion circumstances where there should be universal common ground. But not so with the current left. Arguing that you have the right to abort a full-term nine month baby five minutes before it’s born is in my opinion indefensible. To argue to the contrary for me is evil. This is but one example the left holds that I find abhorrent. Trust me, there are many more.


    The economic policies the left holds are incredibly punitive to the poor and for as long as I’ve been alive the left has claimed to be the champion of the poor. Data and history proves them wrong. As we speak the Fed is trying to bail out the boat we call the economy while our president and Congress is drilling holes in the bottom. They are either economically Ignorant/ deficient and bankrupt of ideas or it is purposeful. If it is the latter I find that evil.


    The left has a rather poor record in many other areas as well. Civil rights comes to mind. Our current president celebrated, embraced and was proud to be around Senator Byrd. As we all know he was a grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. But hey, that’s just old Joe.


    But when what you are espousing has no record of success and is in many instances indefensible, then name calling, finger-pointing, division, and the politics of personal destruction are your only avenue.

    My father always said don’t tell me what you’re going to do show me what you’ve done. And in my lifetime, what the left has done is cruel and In many instances evil.







    We’ll get there when we get there and not a minute before. 😎

    The sad part of that whole list, is the fact that the left seems to be able to hang together as a group to get these things pushed through into law or by E O. The right had better learn REAL FAST that the Congress could change into they're side but if and only if they can put a united stand to prove that the way this country is headed is wrong. Fighting internally is only going to fracture the party and show the voters that even a BAD decision made by liberal, greenies socialist may be better than voting for a party that can't even agree with themselves. Sad

    Nobody gets outta here ALIVE

    This fight is gonna be a barn burner all the way up Election Day. The left is gonna ride the pro abortion bus all the way (cause what else can they run on - Trump is bad ?). The Reps have so many things to run against it is easy to pick two or three and go after the middle/middle left and is what will win the election for em. The student loan forgiveness bullshit should be a part of every speech - that has pissed off more folks everywhere from all income levels. This is one we gotta win or this country or it is gonna be horrible place - just look how screwed we are after just 2 years of a full Democrat government. Hopefully the Hispanics are gonna pull us out of the fire as they have moved to the Rep Party in droves. Wouldn’t that be an oxymoron - Dems screamed to allow all illegal aliens in thinking they would vote Democrat be the ones to vote them out !! If they voted out the Democrats would then be chanting “BUILD THAT WALL” :00008172:

    I might not be right but I can sure sound like it

    Edited once, last by Bill Martin ().

    Your falling down that fake news rabbit hole. Abortions are not being done 5 min before a baby is born. The only time a baby is aborted that late in a pregnancy is if there is danger to the mother dying, or very serious complications.

    Here are some stats, https://www.axios.com/2022/05/…ws-bans-roe-supreme-court


    Not going to disagree with economic policies.


    On civil rights, both the left and right have swayed too far to their own sides. We need a median ground. Trump had just as many interactions with KKK, Proud boys, Oath keepers, etc.

    The extremists are the loudest on both sides, but both are way too far left or right for the majority.


    Evil….LOL…..NO. Against your way of thinking…YES. Hence back to my original comment, just because it doesn’t suit you, its not evil. Evil is the people committing mass killings. Not the FBI, doctors, government policy makers, etc.


    I keep saying it….get a better candidate and the right might win. Keep putting forth hard line, QAnon, Trump style candidates and you will keep losing. It’s just a fact. Happened once and will happen again. The right got lucky with Trump the first time, as no one knew what he was going to be like. Once they got a taste, the majority decided they didn’t like it


    And for the “Election was stolen” crowd…..BS. It was lost due to your candidate.

    Again for me there are absolutes.


    Relativism is a rudderless ship that goes nowhere.

    We’ll get there when we get there and not a minute before. 😎

    Quote from Sparcky

    try something less draconian, and less similarities to a “concentration camp” for lack of a better comparison, for a start. I don’t have the answer, but its sure not your suggestion.

    Yep the left objects but keeps the status quo and does nothing. I like draconian, time we did something to correct the situation. I'm sure not a bleeding heart for the homeless and criminals or corrupt politicians!

    I disagree the majority of this country didn’t like his personality - NOT his job performance. If it were not for Covid Trump would have sailed thru the 2020 election in a probable landslide. Give me an arrogant, self centered New Yorker with pro America policies over a feckless, mentally deficient career politician running the country in a ditch every day !! To me the choice is obvious….

    I might not be right but I can sure sound like it

    Quote from Bill Martin

    I disagree the majority of this country didn’t like his personality - NOT his job performance. If it were not for Covid Trump would have sailed thru the 2020 election in a probable landslide. Give me an arrogant, self centered New Yorker with pro America policies over a feckless, mentally deficient career politician running the country in a ditch every day !! To me the choice is obvious….

    The unfortunate fact that we must face is politics in this country has become a popularity contest - its no longer about who can actually do the best job, its about who looks pretty and tells the prettiest lies - - - - this is why if we are not careful we will get Gavin Newsom - - - fits the bill perfectly, Good looking man who can spin all of the liberal lies so well he will have the snow flakes swooning and Hollywood will stand right there with him as his cheer leaders "Gavin Gavin Gavin" - - - - - (and trust me - he's coming, the signs are there)


    We no longer have a functioning first world political system - - - - no - this is high school politics and the nerds and ROTC dudes and business majors who would be guaranteed to do the best job ain't going to be homecoming king & queen unless by some miracle we find one who is as likable as Gavin or whoever else the other side runs - - if we can do that then perhaps voters might look past likability to the qualifications, but you got to get past likability first.


    As sad as it is I truly believe this to be a FACT! - In our current political environment likability is the number one most important trait to a majority of the voting population - if she had been likable Hillary would not have lost to Trump - I believe that to be a fact. No matter how qualified a person might be if they are not likable it won't matter.


    Sorry to be negative or to mess up your Sunday morning, but this is where we are and its important that we acknowledge it - total third world political level politics, corruption, bribes, Hollywood fake make-believe popularity contests - - and whoever wants to win better find some candidates with broad public likability - - - if you dont


    "Gavin Gavin Gavin"



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    unfortunately you probably don’t. But we can see yours clearly.


    I will however tell you though, so as not to add confusion. This isn’t a new revelation from me, I have said this many times before. I am not left, far or moderate, and I am not far right, or extremist.
    In the US terms, I would probably be called a RINO by the extremists, right by the left, and a republican by what the GOP were and are striving to get back to. Extremism has no place on either side IMO.
    And that is why the GOP will not win, too much extremism at the present time. You don’t have to like it, but it’s a fact.

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    Quote from Bill Martin

    I disagree the majority of this country didn’t like his personality - NOT his job performance. If it were not for Covid Trump would have sailed thru the 2020 election in a probable landslide. Give me an arrogant, self centered New Yorker with pro America policies over a feckless, mentally deficient career politician running the country in a ditch every day !! To me the choice is obvious….

    Irrelevant why he didn't get elected. Poor performance, or a personality. Makes no difference. He was voted out. Still a bad candidate choice if people don’t like him.

    Quote from Sparcky

    unfortunately you probably don’t. But we can see yours clearly.


    I will however tell you though, so as not to add confusion. This isn’t a new revelation from me, I have said this many times before. I am not left, far or moderate, and I am not far right, or extremist.
    In the US terms, I would probably be called a RINO by the extremists, right by the left, and a republican by what the GOP were and are striving to get back to. Extremism has no place on either side IMO.
    And that is why the GOP will not win, too much extremism at the present time. You don’t have to like it, but it’s a fact.

    we have become a country of the backlash - Trump was a backlash of Obama along with Hillary being a bad candidate - Biden is obviously the backlash from Trump. Thus, I disagree again - the MSM won’t tell you this but IMO there will be a major backlash in November from the extreme leftist policies. Clock is ticking - we shall see…

    I might not be right but I can sure sound like it

    Quote from Sparcky

    unfortunately you probably don’t. But we can see yours clearly.


    I will however tell you though, so as not to add confusion. This isn’t a new revelation from me, I have said this many times before. I am not left, far or moderate, and I am not far right, or extremist.
    In the US terms, I would probably be called a RINO by the extremists, right by the left, and a republican by what the GOP were and are striving to get back to. Extremism has no place on either side IMO.
    And that is why the GOP will not win, too much extremism at the present time. You don’t have to like it, but it’s a fact.

    Sparcky personally I believe the extremists have gotten a good foot hold in the Democrat party as well - - Seriously candidates openly calling themselves socialists are running and in some cases winning.


    And history seems to show that extremist politics, no matter right or left, never seem to end up in a good place

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    I'm just warning everyone - - stick with unlikable candidates and you will regret it


    and yes I do live in California so I do know what you can expect - - - you ain't going to like it


    Oh and sorry if my prior post made you ill - - - I needed the shock value so that what I am saying really sinks in - - its important

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    I'm just warning everyone - - stick with unlikable candidates and you will regret it


    and yes I do live in California so I do know what you can expect - - - you ain't going to like it


    Oh and sorry if my prior post made you ill - - - I needed the shock value so that what I am saying really sinks in - - its important


    That you think anything even close to a majority of the rest of the country sees Gavin as "likable" and anything other than the punchline of a joke is why you really need to get out of the left coast bubble more.


    I feel just fine, but thanks for your concern. Love you too.


    Lastly sir, you are denouncing extremes while claiming you "needed" to use that same tactic so your point "sinks in" ..... might want to take a good hard look at that.


    ....... kiss-squared


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    :REDSS: The ghost of SLingshot past ......

    extreme scare tactic to get voters to think is a far cry from wanting extreme politics - - - - - sometimes you need to scream to get people off the train tracks before they get run down - - - - :thumbsup:


    and Love you too my friend

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    I agree with the likable thought to a degree... Mit Romney is much more likable than the Donald but I don't think he could ever win the presidency as a Republican.


    Your governor is likable only to the very far left in my opinion, as they did try to out him and failed which says a lot. It is going to be a messy election in a couple of more years because just as with the Donald, people are going to vote to get rid of one guy and not because the other guy is better. I don't know how many people I know that said they hated Biden, but hated Trump more.... sad state of affairs.

    When the going gets tough.... Downshift.