Posts by Kyle D

    One would have to know the quality of the two different clutches....


    German engineering vs Polaris...


    Does anyone know who actually manufactures our clutch?

    LUK makes the clutches for the Slingshot. See pics below. I did not see any Exedy or Sachs markings on any of the parts.


    Exedy makes a good portion of the clutch discs out there generally speaking. They will either private label them for companies or companies will buy the center section and change the friction surface material and rebrand it as theirs.


    Sachs provides a lot of pressure plates to OEM companies. They also do similar private labeling for companies or companies will buy the pressure plate and disassemble them and either shim parts or alter the fingers to make them have a higher clamp load.

    Does anyone know if there is a five point seat belt made for the 2016 Polaris Slingshot? Having raced rails in NHRA in the past, I know the value of having open seating and a five point seatbelt. With the right adjustments they can be very comfortable. Besides, it would make me feel a lot more comfortable if when taking my autistic son for rides he was buckled in a little bit more securely than just a three point seatbelt.

    I run harnesses from Team Tech. They're made here in MI, They're just as nice as any harness that I've ever used, and they're a fraction of the price. They are fully customizable down to color of stitching, webbing, pads, pull tabs, connection type, etc. Turn around time is super quick. I ordered my 6pt and had it before the end of the week. I went with the standard harness and added the things I wanted. They will also re-certify them and not force you to buy a whole new set of harnesses. I would stay away from the harnesses sold on slingshot specific sites. All of the ones I have seen and used are pretty flimsy or use cheap parts and they usually cost more than a good set. A basic 5pt from team tech is $153 but PRP will charge you $178 for a 4pt and they fit like garbage. I have no skin in the game or affiliation with Team Tech but I'm all about great products that you are not overcharged for and also supporting MI made products. You can check them out here https://teamtechmotorsports.co…rnesses/standard-harness/

    I just wanted to see if there is any interest out there for this face plate. We would make it for both factory radio models if there is enough interest. If not, then I'll have a one off part. The plate is actual carbon fiber and not a wrapped piece of plastic or a sticker like most of the "carbon fiber" parts out there for the Slingshot. All made in house here at ZZP. The sticker will be smaller and fit between the lower bolt holes. There will also be overlays for the button functions.


    We are having an Ecotec Dyno Day on Sat. Aug. 3rd starting at 9am. Being that our Slingshots have Ecotec engines in them we are welcoming all Slingshots out. Because we currently have an above ground dyno, we will not be able to get Slingshots on the dyno at this event due to time constraints. We will likely have a Slingshot Dyno Day if we get enough interest in this event. If we can get enough Slingshots, at least 3-5, to come up we will have our own part of the judged car show just for Slingshots with a trophy award. My Slingshot will likely be getting put on the dyno as the last vehicle of the day for 1 pull. If you ever wanted to see a Slingshot make over 500whp on a Mustang dyno in person, here is your chance. We are located in Wyoming MI.


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    It's worth the drive...I stopped in and checked out ZZP's shop...hands down one of the nicest facilities I have ever seen. If you can get past the attitude that Kyle D has ;), you will probably end up getting a great product. I am tentatively looking at their block as my winter project...but we will see...Family vacations are eating up my fun money. lol

    If by attitude you mean appreciative of you for stopping by on your way home to make me jealous of another person with a 4 wheel conversion then yes. Terrible attitude. ;)

    That drive through the UP is amazing. I try to get up there once a year to go see the pictured rocks and the falls and spend a day on Mackinac Island. If you didn't want to do the drive, you COULD ship it to me as well. Have us do the install and we will get it back on any transport that you schedule. I've had several people do that at this point. You definitely have options.

    Anything you swap in is going to be expensive. Scott Riley from Sport Rider in WI just put a 2JZ engine out of a Toyota Supra in his. Last time he was on the dyno he was around the 400whp mark. You can find those engines fairly cheap and from what he was telling me in Maggie the majority of the parts to make it work in the SS were fairly inexpensive. But it will all depend on the condition of the engine and how much of the work you do yourself. If I had to take an educated guess Scott probably has around $10k just into the 2JZ engine setup. It really all comes down to what your definition of expensive is, what your goals are, and what your approximate budget is. It's really easy to dump $8k-$10 into a fully built engine and turbo setup on one of the LE5 engines that come in the Slingshot.


    We also make a forged engine here at ZZP. You can see it here https://zzperformance.com/coll…3-forged-2-4l-short-block We offer it as just a short block but we can build it up into a long block for you as well. There are a lot of options in building it up so it's always best to talk to the person and look at budget and power goals so you can make sure they get everything they want/need to reach their goals but not sell them anything they don't need to get there. I have sold 10 short blocks and built another 5 of them into long blocks over the last 4 months and everyone has been very happy with them. Three of the short blocks and all 5 of the long blocks were installed here at ZZP and all of them were running our turbo kit. They all left making between 9-15psi of boost which is between 300-400whp. If you still are on 3 wheels, 400whp is way more than you'll ever need. We had a short block and ported head go to TX to a guy running a supercharger and he has also been extremely happy. The point being we can build to suit anyone's needs running any companies parts. We will also have a drop in turbo engine swap option next year that base power will start at 250whp. Stock internals will handle 400whp and the block will handle 500whp. There will be 3 turbo options available depending on what your power goals are. If you are interested in discussing any of this further, you can always email me directly at Kyle@zzperformance.com as well.

    If your coming to the Indy airstrip attack, I live close by so if you need something or want some help let me know.

    If you decide to come over to the event, you are more than welcome to come hang out in the pits with us. Always fun having fellow Sling owners there. I believe kev is coming down from Canada to watch as well. Last year on the first day rabtech and I were in different areas of the pit but on the 2nd day we were just across from each other. It's a really good time.

    It will be interesting to see if HP Tuners can crack the ECM open for tuning. The 2019 Corvette ZR1 takes 10 credits to unlock at $40/credit plus you have to pay to unlock the TCM in addition to that. And then you have to pay someone to tune it.

    Most people do not even need the big brake kit, all that is needed is the 5'0 pads. I just checked the 5'0 pads on mine and there is a lot of pad left on them babies.

    That is because you apply your brakes maybe 4 times every 120 miles. At least that was all I counted in Maggie. laugh-squared

    just for informational purposes TravAZ has done a good deal of track time with his Slingshot on the track with the cars I dont remember which group it was that was allowing him to run, but perhaps he can chime in here with than information


    this is one of his many track videos


    I'm sure there are tracks out there. But none of the ones in MI allow them and none of the tracks on the Gridlife circuit would allow them. We do not go out much further than those so it was pointless for me to look further.

    LEDs throw light fairly far, but lacks saturation. I too had LEDs and yanked them out quickly and went to 6 stock bulbs across and flipped the Canadian wiring to have them be on full time. Works great for me. Looks like garbage compared to those with HID or LED... but they function well.

    I'm all about function over form.

    I haven't had the opportunity to run against a hellcat yet. The 492 scat pack was pretty boring to run against. I walked away from him...but then again...I have never been in a situation where I would be racing over 130 MPH lol

    I got beat by a hellcat by almost half a second at 9psi in a 1/4mi last year and trapped 12.20. There was a hellcat consistently trapping 141-146 in the standing 1/2 this year. Based off those numbers, I may not get to the end faster but my trap speed was higher by 3mph. But it also took 22psi to do that. Maybe he was a shitty driver, maybe he had traction issues. No idea.

    Anything that adds weight in a light vehicle such as the slingshot WILL affect performance. It might not be a big deal for those that not care about numbers but for those seeking mostly performance weight shaving is a big deal. There a difference between my SLR with a 315 tire and big wheel in the rear vs a rental i drove with a 265 and a 18” wheel. The rental accelerated better and you could feel the machine was more nimble overall. Same goes when you add an aftermarket top. The additional weight does make a difference in performance overall. The slingshot is susceptible to weight, by more than most people imagine.

    If we are talking about road racing and 1/4mi drags, yes weight savings is crucial. However, I have yet to find a road racing track that will let a 3 wheeled slingshot run with cars or motorcycles. But in 1/2mi top speed runs, weight becomes less important but adding down force (essentially MORE weight) to stay planted does become more important so you can deliver the power to the ground efficiently. As far as tops go, most of the tops out there are not terribly heavy since they are made out of light weight tubing and canvas or plastic and poly but either way performance is going to be more affected by the additional drag created and not the actual weight of it. I would say that it is safe to say that the majority of this niche market is not concerned about shaving ounces and pounds though. Especially when you can just brute force your way through it with a turbo.

    I got the Canadian conversion and removed my center lights. 6 lights across the front was too much for me. It also left a nice giant open hole right in front of my air filter. I wired them up so all 4 lights switch between low and high beams. I've tried 3 different sets of LEDs and none of them are any different from the others in terms of function and brightness regardless of price. All have been really bright BUT, they only throw like 6-8 feet in front of you. It's absolutely terrible. So bad that I now avoid driving at night. And yes, I made sure to properly level and aim them. Went through some dark ass road in Maggie near Blue Ridge and couldn't go more than 35mph because I couldn't see anything up ahead. They will be coming out this winter and be replaced with HIDs which was what I wanted to do first but I wanted to try the LEDs since there was less shit to install and hide like the ballasts I would need. Should have listened to my gut and gone HID. It was an expensive very time consuming lesson learned. There's a few people out there that swear by them and talk about how bright and far they throw but of the 3 I tried, the throw was absolutely garbage.



    Hey kev , I like those doors. Kyle D , Dave@DDMWorks , or rabtech , do you think these would help with airflow for high speed runs?

    It's hard for me to say. Just going off what I experienced removing things and taping things off at the 1/2mi rabtech and I were at last year I would think probably not. Regardless of what we removed or taped off, both of our speeds remained consistent. And the air right there is going to be fairly turbulent I would imagine with the wheel right there. But Dave@DDMWorks would probably have more knowledge on that with the wind tunnel testing he did.