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Cigars and whiskey, someone is talking my language

What Ass clown could possibly say the Charlottesville thing wasn't the fault of both sides?

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I will be there sir really looking forward to it!

I got my room booked....be in on Monday....thru Sunday am.

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GREAT!! Been too long since I seen ya

Going riding in the Carolinas next week and than doing the Asheville NC Ride for Kids on the 26 and heading home on Sunday the 27th ....


got to get out of Dodge for a few days a relax.

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You know, if you think about it, the nation needs marital counseling. The general "talk to each other with respect", "thank each other when they do something nice", "point out the good things they do", "forgive past transgressions, but try not to let them happen again", "don't argue in front of the kids", etc. etc. etc. ... Of course you'd have to add in there "don't shoot anyone that's not threatening your life or the lives of others", but still.

Jokes aside, we need to stop pointing fingers, and act with respect. I respect you, you respect me (or pretend you do), we agree to disagree, we go on with our lives. Even better would be: I talk to you while you listen, you talk to me while I listen, we both learn to see each other's point of view and agree or agree to disagree but are better informed. Etc.

And, lastly, if you don't like something, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Don't just sit behind your keyboard and spout off at the mouth. Don't like something? Petition for change. Don't want to do that? Run for local office. Don't want to do that? Donate to a charity. Don't want to do that? Volunteer to help. Don't want to do that? Then you're lazy and just want the social media attention. Seriously people. And no, walking around with vaginas on your head, or tiki torches in your hand does not qualify as "doing something" in this day in age. Sorry.

Amen! Speak the truth!!

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You know what kills me on all of this? People have the right to be stupid -- it's a Constitutionally protected right (within some boundaries). So, if a group of people want to get together to be stupid, and file the appropriate paperwork, and be peaceful, they have that right. Hell, I signed up to fight for their right to be stupid.

Now, I've started to think about stupid people like 2 year olds. If the toddler/stupid person is not crying/whining/etc, then you can usually correct them in their behavior. Say a friend says something stupid/ignorant/etc, and you say "not in front of me", or "here's the data that shows you're wrong" or "(smack upside the head) stop being an idiot". You corrected the problem, and have begun encouraging change in the child's behavior. When the toddler is having a tantrum, you ignore it (or smack their butts, depending on your personal parenting style). So how does that affect a stupid person? When you have a group of stupid people whining, crying, and otherwise throwing a temper tantrum, and you remove the attention from them, then you remove their power. Remove their power, remove their ability to affect you, and remove their motivation to throw the tantrum. Stop the tantrum, and you can attempt to change the child's behavior. Is it a fast process? No. Is it effective? Yes.

So what's my point? Take the recent "Alt-Right" rally. If no news source had covered it, if no one had counter-protested, if no on had cared that a group of stupid people were getting together to have a stupidity tantrum, you take the power away from the movement. Instead, by acknowledging their stupidity, you give them power, you give them a box to stand on, and you give them the visibility to spread their stupidity. Had the stupidity tantrum gone unacknowledged, the coverage could have been limited to "stupid people have stupid tantrum in VA", and that would have been the end of it. A good answer, no, but one that could be used to work towards a peaceful behavioral change. Instead, we have 24/7 coverage, and now 9 other stupidity tantrum rallies are scheduled.

People are/can be smart. Large groups of people are inherently stupid.

**Disclaimer: For those who do not know me, and if it is not apparent in this writing, I am by no means a supporter of the Alt-Right. In fact, I generally do not support any form of stupidity, but as long as it's legal, it's you're right. I do not condone racism/sexism/genderism/culturalism/whatevertheeffthenew-ismistoday, nor do I condone inciting riots/damaging property/doing anything illegal other than speeding and the occasional parking issue.

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I absolutely agree with you! They are morons and worse but the idiots that don't want to let the have the right to say their stupid sh*# are as bad or worse. When I worked for the PD awhile back we had a group of those idiots that wanted to speak at the capital. Well there were a dozen of them and 5000+ showed up to deny them there right to say stupid shit. Well we had a minor riot and a bunch of antiKKK got hurt and a bunch of cops as well. The next year they demanded the right to speak again. The city opposed it but the court over ruled the city. The chief did the smartest thing possible. He said fine, you want to speak, you speak on the capital steps. We didn't let a single person within 4 blocks of them. There were 5000 counter protestors that couldn't see or hear anything. No riot, no problem. Guess what, they didn't come back

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This should have been Trump's campaign ad with a fade out to the theme..."Make America Great Again!

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Where is that whisky and cigar festival happening?

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Eureka Springs Rally - I owe ya a cigar- I'll keep a seat warm for ya !!

Afraid I won't be making it to Arkansas. I won't even be making it to regular Kansas!

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Eureka Springs Rally - I owe ya a cigar- I'll keep a seat warm for ya !!

I want one to Bill!!

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@Bill Martin, what bout me?

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Need to get back to whiskey and cigars much better atmosphere.

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