Posts by Astrolite

    And if they don't change their line of thinking, we the people that care about our country and our rights will go to washington and fire them.

    I might get myself into real trouble here, but most of those politicians need to be lined up against a wall and fired real good. Then confiscate all of there belongings and pay off the national debt! Between the politicians that think they own us and the progressive lunatics who can't think at all this country is going down the rat hole at blinding speed.

    The Angel in a tiny part of my brain hopes for a future where nobody smokes, nobody vapes. The world would be a better place.

    Not that much better I would hazard to guess. There is way too much other suffering in this world for the end of smoking and vaping to make much of a dent. If by government legislation, definitely not! Freedom of choice, now that's something that undoubtedly makes the world a better place.

    Personally I enjoy vaping and am not using it to ween myself off of nicotine. I feel that I have found a safer, at least in my mind, and cleaner way to partake in my habit. I may be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, but at least I was free to choose.

    I just can't figure out why the FDA wants to stamp out ecigs when they are a proven BETTER ALTERNATIVE to traditional cigarettes..

    That's a simple one, Big Tobacco has lots of money to influence our government officials. The current status of the e-cig market is killing Big Tobacco and they want control. Then the FDA puts it out there like they are doing this to save the children, that's a bunch of bull shit!

    As it stands right now, with the current FDA regulation, if your favorite manufacture did not have his current vaping device on the market before 2007, he will no longer be able to sell it unless he pays big money, to the government, to prove it is essentially the same as what he had on the market before 2007. How many will be able to do that? He can also apply, within 90 days of the regulation going into effect, to have his device approved by the FDA. The approval process could take up to 3 years and cost from $300,000 to $1,000,000 per device! How many will be able to do that? If the manufacture does not apply within the 90 day grace period, he cannot sell the device until it is approved.

    This regulation goes way beyond "protecting the children". This puts most of the companies out of business and hands the business to, guess who, Big Tobacco.

    If you care about this please see my links in the original post and contact your representatives. There is a House Bill on the floor right now to change the 2007 date to the date the FDA regulation goes into effect. It is HR 2058. This would at least allow all current devices on the market to continue to be sold.

    I don't mind sensible regulations. Mandatory age limits, get the Diacetyl out of e-juice, etc. But the current situation is far from sensible.

    The Greek physician you are quoting has some valid points like the byproducts of tobacco when heat is applied...but he may have a bias

    Agreed, he is an advocate for e-cigs, however I did read that he became an advocate because of his research into both cigarettes and e-cigs. I don't disagree with you @DKF Texas, about underage vaping and sensible regulations. For us old farts that have been smoking cigarettes for most of our lives e-cigs have been a real blessing. What ticks me off is all the restrictive BS added to the FDA reg that drives up prices and hands the business over to BIG TOBACCO most likely because they stuffed a bunch of money into someone's pockets.

    Leading e-cig researcher Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos

    “Although I agree that we should know if e-liquids contain diacetyl and acetyl propionyl, I must note that the study has missed some very important points. One is the assessment of the levels found in their samples. The levels presented in Figure 2 are quite low, much lower that what we found in our study. In many cases, levels of these compounds are absolutely minimal, and it is NOT expected to raise any concerns about human health effects. Additionaly, the authors FAILED to mention the presence of these compounds in tobacco cigarette smoke. This omission creates the impression that e-cigarettes are exposing users to a new chemical hazard, while in reality their exposure will be much lower compared to smoking.”
    [/quote]“tobacco cigarette smoke contains high levels of diacetyl and acetyl propionyl, on average 100 and 10 times higher,”
    [/quote]“the article is creating false impressions and exaggerates the potential risk from diacetyl and acetyl propionyl exposure through e-cigarettes. They failed to mention that these chemicals are present in tobacco cigarette smoke and violated a classical toxicological principle that the amount determines the toxicity and the risk.”

    I will throw my 2cents out on this...the biggest problem is the kids using these....12, 13 yo etc...nicotine is addictive...lots of the "juice" have varying levels of nicotine...there is nothing keeping these young kids from purchasing and is a problem

    I have no problem with sensible regulations on e-cigs, putting an age limit, that's sensible. But if you take the time to see what the government is really doing with these regulations, it's a crime. They don't really give a rats ass about anybody's health, it's all about the money.

    I know there are a number of vapers on this forum and many of you have been able to get off of the nasty cigarette habit because of e-cigarettes. If you want to continue to vape, using your favorite paraphernalia and juices you had better take a look at the links below and get involved! Under the new FDA regulations released today all companies manufacturing e-cigs and juices would have to apply to the FDA for approval of their products. I have heard the cost could be $300,000 to $1 million dollars per device or flavor of juice and could take up to three years for approval. If they have not applied for approval within 90 days of the adoption of the regulations, they will not be able to sell their products during the approval process! This new regulation will effectively put most manufactures out of business. The only companies able to jump through the hoops and pay the bucks will be BIG TOBACCO and they will control the e-cig market. This is not to mention the taxes that our government will place on our products!

    The new regulation just came out today and is several hundred pages long. Obviously I have not read it. Some of the above information may not be 100% correct, but I guarantee you it will have a serious impact on our vaping! So please, if you care, check out the links below and let your representatives know how you feel and maybe even how e-cigs helped you break your cigarette habit and improved your health.

    Keep clam and Vape on brothers and sisters!


    Installed the Scorpio i900 today. I think this will fit the bill just fine for what we wanted!! Thanks @Tripod for taking the time to give me some good tips!!!

    I had Best Buy install the Viper 3305V today. The technician did a great job. I was very impressed by the fact that he had studied up on the install, before I came in, by going to the company's internal forum and reading about the @kenny_h install that his technician had posted. Very neat and professional install.

    I was stranded at the store during the 5 hour install, that's not a good thing, I damn near bought a TV!

    Great video there Sam, especially like your selection of music to go with it. I don't know how you can stand all that blue sky and warm sunshine. Up here in PA it's overcast, drizzling rain and 49 degrees right now and I'm a little jealous!