Quote from Edward Neal

actually you have been given false information

According to 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22, "No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings."

In other words, companies that manufacture vaccines are not liable if someone has an allergic reaction or injury after being vaccinated.

so you are wrong, the manufacture of every vaccine since October 1, 1988 has had immunity from direct liability, there is a national vaccine injury compensation program that was setup by the government that has its own "vaccine court" and at this point the covid vaccines are not a part of that program , but the funds paid to the petitioners of that court are not paid by the vaccine manufacture - they are paid by the government which as I am sure you know means they are paid by the tax payers

So considering this your excuse that you won't get it until manufacture can be held liable is not a valid excuse, because under the law this can never happen

Fact Check of another false conspiracy

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Well, and even those who claim they don't like its been politicized and blame the left for doing it, still want to "win" at every argument they try...

Simple observation here is you just have to look at what's posted and the "likes" received (even when proven false)...

And of course, excluding what BD posts (though even back before he was blocked, he also got a like or two at times...things that make you go hmmm...)

Quote from Edward Neal

Actually this is all a part of a plan by the left to gather DNA of the people they consider extremists - those people who wont get vaccinated. So how are they doing this? They requiring people who are not vaccinated to get covid tests for every little event or travel or any other excuse they can find (and they are finding more excuses every day) and then when they take that swab for the covid test they use it to add that persons DNA to the national DNA database - NDIS or National DNA Index System which is a part of CODIS so that in the future they can track those people down using their DNA if they ever decide they need to. - yep, if you have had a covid test - better be careful about any protesting or complaining that the government disagrees with - - they will be able to identify you and find you

Fortunately I have never had to have a covid test and now that I am fully vaccinated I am exempt from having to be tested for covid and giving them my DNA

like you say - they are smarter than you think

Damn Ed... I think you're right....

They're smarter than you think...

Quote from MADDMOE

WOW ......

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.…t-motorcycle-crash-canal/

Damn... Was it raining?

Happy Birthday Mr. Bill!

Quote from OrangeSlingFL

This was ALL throughout last year as soon as Trump began talking vaccine and Operation Warp Speed. NOW it's all good because Lord Biden is in power. If Trump was in the White House things would be very very different regarding vaccines wouldn't they? The media would be the first one telling all the sheep a million reasons why the TRUMP vaccine is not safe.

Guaranteed.

Guaranteed TRUMP says to get the vaccine and gets booed in Alabama...

😂

Quote from Edward Neal

No vaccine has ever come even close to stopping everyone from being infected - and saying they have is 100% wrong!

According to a 2012 meta analysis the flu vaccine is 67% effective

The chicken pox vaccine is 82% after one dose and pre trial showed 2 doses at 98%, but post trial this dropped to 92% - - - - these numbers are very similar to the pre trial and post trial numbers for the Pfizer covid vaccine against the Alpha variant - - unfortunately unlike chicken pox covid has been allowed to mutate in the people it infects creating new variations where the numbers drop off - -but even then remain higher than the flu vaccine which also mutates

The polio vaccine is 90% effective after 2 doses but with a third booster gets to almost 100% - - - again numbers very close to what we are seeing with Pfizers covid vaccine - - but again remember polio does not mutate which means the polio vaccine has an advantage - Also remember that in the early stages the polio vaccine actually cause paralysis in a good number of people.

The TB vaccine that is currently used around the world is an not nearly as good as the above - at best it is about 71% effective but some studies show it is as low as 20% - - so far the Pfizer Covid vaccine is looking much much better

Now lets look at the mumps MMR vaccine - its effectiveness ranges from 32% to as high as 95% with an average around 88%

So clearly anyone who at this point thinks the Pfizer vaccine is any less effective that other vaccines is totally wrong or they haven't taken the time to actually do any research - - in the end the one thing that so far is holding as being true is that the Covid vaccine is extremely effective at preventing serious illness and most importantly death - - at this point real world numbers are showing you are 29 times more likely to die from covid if you get in and are not vaccinated that if you get it and have been given the Pfizer vaccine

In the end no vaccine is even close to being perfect and if you are using not being 100% effective as your reason not to be vaccinated please just know that in making that choice you are dramatically increasing your chances of serious illness or even death

In the end there are only 2 ways to get any immunity to the covid virus - the first is to actually get the virus and hopefully survive and the second is to get the vaccine - the choice is yours

Also please keep in mind that the longer it takes for the country to reach herd immunity, with enough people having immunity so that like many viruses before it we dont really have to think about it much, the longer it takes the more chances it will have to mutate and possible become even more deadly

As I have said before, I wish everyone would get vaccinated, I want this thing to be over and for mutations to stop, But I also respect that you have the right to choose not to get vaccinated, I only have one request - - please make your choice with real information and not the crap you hear on talk radio or conspiracy sites - - - 29% more likely to die - - that's a pretty big risk to take because you you blindly believed something without actually checking the information for yourself

Immunity - how you get it is up to you

LOVE

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Oh man... Don't try to use facts, medical research, and other science... Better to use sarcasm. 😂

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I'm not here to judge anyone that did or did not get the shot. I'm not here to tell you anything OTHER than our experience. I'm also not trying to influence anyone by what I'm about to tell. I've tried very much to stay away from the politics surrounding the choice and to respect what others have chosen. I would be thankful if you would offer me the same consideration.

Neither of us have gotten the shot. Like FunCycle stated, we had looked at the vaccine, the possible side effects (for us, blood clotting and autoimmune issues that can be caused by the shots, and we both have had issues with these in the past) and chose not to get it. We have been on a daily regiment of Vita C, D (fall thru spring only on D), Echinacea, and likely the most important one.... Zinc. My wife hasn't been taking the Zinc like she should, she didn't like the taste it left in her mouth. She came down with it by being exposed (most likely source, as two others where she works also got it) by her 75 year old boss. I came down with it 3 days later. We both (by the CDC) have been non contagious for 2 days.

We were down less than a week. Never lost taste, smell, nor had any nausea. We were both able to drink lots of fluids. We did have the craps for a couple days, and no appetite. She has lost over 20 pounds, I've lost about 17-18. We neither had any breathing issues along the duration of having it. I got over it quicker, but I feel that's because I've taken the Zinc faithfully. Zinc stops the replication of the virus. I've known this for years, and used it against colds/flus. My wife is in better shape than I am, she eats right, never smoked, walks 2 miles on the treadmill 6 days a week (pre covid, hasn't during this). Me? I smoked over 20 years, eat anything, and while active, I don't use the treadmill. She will be 60 in January, I'll be 62.

I had read that the best defense against covid was a healthy immune system, and that these things I've told you about were the way to help strengthen that. We chose this path, and for us it worked.

Great to hear Brent!

It's just an odd thing really, as rabtech pointed out...

It does make me wonder if there's "something", not yet identified (or maybe disclosed) that this virus seeks and attacks... Like a weapon per say. I do believe it was man-made, in a lab, with animals. If mad scientists are smart enough to create this, I'd think they're smart enough to cover their tracks... 🤷🏻‍♂️

Anyway, great to hear you and your wife both pulled through!

Quote from rabtech

Horse wormer!

Do you use the caulking gun with it and shoot it down your throat?

Hey 😂... It's better than letting the libs own us!

We need to own the libs!

Don't trust big pharma and an experimental shot... Use a horse medicine (from big pharma, durr) and experimental treatments when you end up in a hospital...?

Makes sense! Where's that caulk gun?

Quote from 3GunSteve

Back to bashing Biden on Afghanistan.. lol

And you know that was originally a Trump meme!

😂

Quote from SoCal

Nice! Very interested in an update after you have had them for a while!

And pictures from different angles and closed too...

Very nice indeed!

My 2 cents, but definitely better than adding speakers there...

Quote from Shatneyman

totally agree, a lot of teachers here are teaching how to hate the US and how the government will take care of us,.. including the illegals

They might be learning how to hate just fine from their parents... And politicians...

Quote from DJohnson

Thanks not a bias bone in my body. No matter who's dogs they were I would have felt the same. Yes thanks to the Brits.

I completely agree there... Dogs don't care about politics. Just loyal down to the bone. No coincidence what doG spelled backwards is...

Quote from Shatneyman

sounds plausible to me, bet you would believe it if it was on CNN. I hear there may be a couple openings for Principals in Afghanistan, give it a try.

Maybe so, but we still need plenty here... And teachers too. 😉

Quote from DJohnson

I hope that is true, but I have gotten to the point that I do not believe anything they say anymore. It is just a bunch of asses covering their asses. Here is the article I got the info from not a FB post.

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REPORT: Americans, Allies, and Service Animals Left Behind in Afghanistan

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• August 31, 2021

The last soldier left the ground last night in Afghanistan, but many were left behind.

There are reportedly at least 100 Americans that never made it out, probably far more.

There were also reports posted last night that dozens of contract service dogs were left behind, locked in their kennels at the airport, abandoned by the country there were serving.

The People

The Biden administration had tried to play the number of Americans left behind down, but even one is too many.

The administration has admitted there are likely at least 100 Americans still in Afghanistan that were unable to get out, but realistic reports are 200 or more.

Personally, I believe it is far more, but that, of course, cannot be verified.

Secretary of State Blinken has vowed to continue to work to get them out, stating, “We have no illusion that any of this will be easy, or rapid.”

Those are empty words by another empty vessel in this administration, however.

I cannot imagine being trapped in that country right now watching the last American plane leave the area and knowing your fate lies in the hands of the Taliban.

The Service Dogs

There were also 51 contract service dogs left behind.

Veteran of Sheepdogs of America is now working to try to get the dogs out.

The non-profit sent out a picture last night of dogs in crates inside a hanger, asking for help to get the dogs out.

The question here is why the dogs were left behind when we know flights left the country that were mostly empty.

These dogs served this country and should have been transported out of the country, but they were left behind, breaking the most important credo of our military.

Dr. Robin R. Ganzert, president and CEO of American Humane, stated, “I am devastated by reports that the American government is pulling out of Kabul and leaving behind brave U.S. military contract working dogs to be tortured and killed at the hand of our enemies.

“These brave dogs do the same dangerous, lifesaving work as our military working dogs, and deserved a far better fate than the one to which they have been condemned.”

This is just utterly shameful and one of the most despicable acts by any president in the history of this country.

To learn more about the non-profit working to get the dogs out, click here.

Sources: KTLA & Fox News

I tend to believe Fox News before I believe anyone in the Bidden Administration.

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Oh yeah, that's not biased at all...

Quote from Bill Martin

……the Taliban ….

BIDEN
                    2024

Make terrorism great again !!!

And you know that was a false meme... Guy was wearing a harness and trying to fix a flag or something... 😆

But it will likely happen soon enough with those animals...

Quote from Red

Wow... Talk about lack of empathy.

And on a side note, why, after getting "your" correct on all the other statements, would they use "you are" for wedding?

Just saying...

Quote from Kyle D

It's odd though, I would really like to know where Vanderhall come up with their power numbers. They advertise the Venice with a 1.4T engine at 175hp. However, GM states that same engine and trans makes 138hp. They advertise the Carmel with the 1.5T making 195hp but GM lists that engine as making 160hp. I posted our results in the Vanderhall groups, that are all primarily owned by Vanderhall and/or their dealers showcasing what we started at and where we ended up at with a Venice and Vanderhall actually called me directly and told me I had to take my posts down to stay in the groups since the power numbers did not align with what they advertise. Against my better judgement and my want to be a primary vendor in that market, I complied and they instantly banned me from all the Vanderhall owned groups. #cancelculture

What the heck?!? Shouldn't that be false advertising or something?!

Bill Martin , if proven wrong, what could be the outcome? I mean, it's like the EPA MPG numbers... Manufacturers have been sued or directed to adjust numbers, haven't they?

Quote from 3GunSteve

DDM supercharger with 100mm currently.

Did get the sling out today... Went to a car show this morning and it turns out the show is tomorrow and I can't read dates on the flyer... So got some breakfast, trip to sams to fill it up, then home to work on my driveway. We went out later with our sling friends to a Hot Rod Rock n Rumble at PPIR raceway in Pueblo. Had some cool stuff going on all day today and a flame thrower contest when it got dark that was kinda cool. Wife wanted to bail as burlesque show started...go figure. Tomorrow headed up the peak with a good sized group hopefully!

Some vids of those flame trucks - https://www.facebook.com/10000…959384084/379485967021099

Where are the burlesque videos???

Quote from Edward Neal

yep - - that's politics, when it was Trump that would get credit because it was him and his administration that that basically made the Pfizer vaccine possible the left was totally against it

and now that Trump isn't in a posistion to benefit anymore now the left is totally for it.

fact is the Pfizer vaccine, Trumps vaccine, has been used on 100's of thousands of people, a number thousands of times higher that would ever be included in a normal trial before a vaccine was brought to market - - because of this the data available to determine safety is much much greater - Trump and his operation Warp Speed made this possible and despite the speed, modern technology and the early willingness of thousands of volunteers to be test subjects and the willingness of Trump to provide massive funding could very well have saved 100's of thousands of lives

also as a bit more information for those who think this was "rushed" the MNRA technology that the Pfizer and Moderns vaccines is based on has been being worked on since the early 90's - - this is not something new- and a MNRA immunotherapy vaccine for cancer patients was approved way back in 2010 having already gone through the entire normal approval process - - - yea this technology hasn't been rushed at all, the only thing done at "warp Speed" was to focus the technology specifically on COVID-19. If you think about it every year they have to refocus the flu vaccine on the new variants that show up so re focusing vaccines toward a paticular virus is done in very short time all the time

I say - - Thank God for the efforts of Donald Trump to make this happen - - - the world owes you never ending gratitude for what you helped make happen

The one thing I find absolutely mind boggling are the conservative Trump supporters who for political reasons are avoiding the vaccine - - this is Trumps vaccine and no matter who is in office now it will always be Trumps vaccine - - - - operation Warp Speed will never be something Biden or anyone else will be able claim as theirs - its already in the history and that can't be changed.

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Agree there... One of the things Trump got right...

And to hear him say, in Alabama, to "get the vaccine, I got the vaccine", then be booed...

That just shows there's some kind of deplora, err, stup, err, people that don't understand science...