Posts by echoraven

    don’t waste you vote on Biden yet...


    They don't care.

    I remember a democrat friend lecturing me about my support for Trump in 2016 after the "grab 'em by the p*ssy" remarks surfaced. That same democrat didn't care:


    • That Hillary stood by her rapist husband

    • That Biden sexually assaulted a woman

    • That Biden is REALLY touchy and feely with children and VERY VISIBLY makes them uncomfortable


    They truly believe that if they vote in enough democrats that they will have a "everything is free" utopia paid for by magical flying unicorns that poop out money for left wing programs...

    ...Warning ... don't use your GPS set on shortest route in Tennessee...

    ...or anywhere. Drove with my daughter to a air museum in Lakeland FL soooo start the GPS for the drive home and pick the most squiggly line and 3 times the app wanted to change it. So 3 times I'm trying to reach around the steering wheel to refuse the "time saving" change.

    GPS apps should have a "fun vehicle" mode which automatically selects the most squiggly lines.

    One time driving from Brooksville FL to Kissimmee I picked the most squiggly line and unbeknownst the app switched my route. Gave me 20 extra minutes of high speed highway buffeting to save 3 minutes. I was furious when I realized it.

    first Of all.....this election is Not about an Individual Or how much you like or dislike them....it’s about everyone behind them and the baggage they will bring with them ....pick biden...you get radical left socialists ....pick trump you get the America we all love.

    More like; pick Trump and we will remain a free country for another 4 years.

    ...As a Patriot, Country comes above all. To many, it is that simple. To many, Trump is not Presidential and is pulling us away from our allies and makes way too many excuses for Putin and other dictators, while discrediting our entire intelligence community. That to those many Patriots is an immediate threat to our Democracy.


    Not to mention that to many, it is embarrassing to call Donald Trump The President of the United States.


    That is how they can rationalize a vote for Biden without losing their identity.;)

    " To many, Trump is not Presidential and is pulling us away from our allies"


    By asking them to pay their fair share? Granted if someone was giving me a free ride, I'd be a bit miffed when it ended, but Trump is the president for the American people, not other countries.

    Israel thinks Trump is the bee's knees, but we know how much the DNC hates them...

    South Korea also think he's swell since he helped reduce tensions with the north...

    The United Arab Emerates probably quite happy he negotiated a trade deal with Israel so hopefully love of money and trade can heal centuries old hatred.


    "way too many excuses for Putin and other dictators, "


    Funny thing for all this "Putin" talk, nobody seems to be able to say how he has benefited with Trump in power... almost as if this whole Russia thing was a hoax.


    Sooo what countries are hoping for a Biden win?

    • The ones that want us to pay their burden for the UN

    • Mexico: so Biden can relax border enforcement, so the drug cartels can funnel money back into Mexico while adding more panties to the various "rape trees", someone should put a Biden/Harris 2020 sticker on those rape trees.
    • China: give Hunter and a few other Biden family members some cushy gigs and they can go back to screwing us in trade


    "That to those many Patriots is an immediate threat to our Democracy."


    Patriots?

    Fighting Trump on trade deals that benefit America?

    Fighting Trump on securing the borders? Funny how those "patriots" don't seem to give a flying turd about those towns living on the border suffering from the activities of the drug cartels aka "auxiliary democrat voter generators" or "Hunter Biden sexual partners procurement professionals".


    "That is how they can rationalize a vote for Biden without losing their identity."


    ...or perhaps they know the media are democrat activist whores and want their approval, like the mayor in San Juan PR that withheld hurricane supplies from her people so she could say "ORANGE MAN BAD" and won the adoration of the MSM and wound up being investigated for corruption.


    Unless their identity is "dishonest political whores" then they keep their identity while voting for Biden...


    "...As a Patriot, Country comes above all. "


    What is patriotic about fighting against trade deals that benefit America?

    What is patriotic about not caring about those border towns in the south that have been terrorized by drug cartels?

    What is patriotic about opposing an administration that has been dedicated to world peace?

    What is patriotic about opposing the first US president to call for a global decriminalization of homosexuality?

    Sooooo at least one person punched at Trump's request... How many have been killed by Democrats support for violence?

    Biden staffers have been bailing out looters and rioters.

    Free press? Whores for democrat party does not equal "free press", unless you mean "free from journalistic integrity" or "free to be whores for the DNC". I remember that "free press" breathlessly covering the pubic hair on the coke can for the Clarance Thomas hearings... Fast forward a few years when Bill Clinton was accused of rape; and..... crickets. My local paper had it on page 6 next to an article about the new butter flavor on movie theater popcorn.

    Those protesters Trump cleared out; how do you know they were peaceful? How do you know they weren't armed? There have been hundreds armed at EVERY riot we've had, so to assume those protesting near Trump JUST HAPPEN to be the only actual peaceful ones is at best naive and given how many leftist are mentally ill it was the only logical option.

    Five years. IF it lasts that long. Polaris will drop it to have money to spend on promoting their electric motorcycles.

    I think the Slingshot is to Polaris what the Rocket 3 is to Triumph. A showpiece; for different reasons. The Rocket being the sheer audacity of a hulking brute of unbridled power, and the Slingshot a giant FU to conventional wisdom. Yes there are other 3 wheeled "cars"; but the SS brings it much closer to the masses price wise.

    My 2¢ on Polaris marketing...

    The Slingshot itself is just the cost of entry. MANY Slingshot owners pump so many $ into mods that they quickly & easily surpass Vanderhall prices...

    They would do the same with the Vanderhall.

    That being said; I LOVE the look of the Vanderhall, researched a few reviews and the seating seems to be more narrow than the SS. Not to mention aftermarket support is nowhere near the SS level.

    Have I pumped money into my SS? Yes. Fuse block, LED kit, jump terminals, double bubble windshields and a few knick knacks. Hoping for top and suspension soon. All of that will probably keep my S model SLIGHTLY under the base model Vanderhall though...

    This is the review I left for my dealer:


    I had called about a 2018 Slingshot for $16999, the salesperson told me it was sold but they could sell me a 2019 for $17999. I thought that was great and made an appt for 2 days later which was Saturday.

    I arrived and would soon experience my first red flag.

    • After the introductions I showed them my trade in which the NADA estimator had between $4,210 To $5,145 (straight from the Polaris website). They ended up offering me approximately $3600. The vehicle is garage kept, no damage and well accessorized.

    • Second red flag; they told me that special offer for $17999 had expired and would sell me the unit for the mid $18k.

    After tax, tag dealer fees the grand total was just under $23k.

    The way they estimated my payments was $1500 down and $450 a month, which seemed huge to me.

    Unfortunately I let them run my credit (I had pre approval from my credit union) so they offered me the same price but paid for longer term, so I left. I was not comfortable with those numbers.

    I got curious after I got home so I looked up a vehicle loan estimator. I put in $23000 (the OTD price estimated up) and my interest at 6.5 (again estimated up) with the $1500 down and it said my payment should have been $418, not $450. My guess is that they wrapped the various credit protections as I had declined them from my credit union.

    Honestly I'm not sure where the fault lies (as I was ready to buy) but do not regret walking away.

    ****************UPDATE**************

    They had called me while I was at another dealer and told me they would meet my numbers; curiosity got the best of me (as I was doing the haggling thing at the time) and I went.

    They met my numbers EXACTLY. When I originally came up with them, I had determined while I got a really good price they would still make a profit.

    In the previous review I mentioned a "comfortable" feeling when my purchased at Motorcycle Enthusiasts, that feeling was back.

    They went to the extent of simplifying how the numbers were presented (I'm really a bottom line guy, I don't care how we get there) and to put icing on the cake that credit check that they did the previous week netted me a lower interest rate.

    I am absolutely thrilled at how this updated experience worked out.

    WHERE I WENT WRONG: I needed to be much more clear about the price I was willing to pay. The salesperson (as nice as they may be) work for the dealer and their responsibility is to their employer.

    In conclusion I ABSOLUTELY do not regret going back.

    Welcome!

    I'm waiting patiently for the end of year sales to hopefully get a top for my S model and if I'm feeling especially frisky; suspension.

    I'm with you, but that hate has sadly been reaffirmed over generations. There are no good answers to the middle east problem. Generations of people lost, grandparents, parents, children, property, livelihood at the hands of the U.S. No matter how noble our intentions or how evil some of those family members were. They can't bring those family members back And will hate us for it. When we accidentally kill one innocent person, that act can create thousands of people that will hate us and seek to bring us down.They will hate us for a very long time.

    It seems terrorists have been relatively quiet these past few years. Perhaps take this opportunity to embrace a more hands off approach to the area. Hopefully economic pressures/temptations will help them shift focus.

    A few years ago I was watching the movie about the Benghazi siege and close to the end when the Syrian forces came to rescue the remaining Americans there were arab females embracing the bodies of their dead family members. It was a powerful scene.

    Like you I want those killings to stop.

    ...I was speaking to the failure to admit wrong, defending every wrong....

    I'll raise you one.

    I loved that Obama was primarily responsible for gay marriage being no longer an issue. A same sex couple can now be legally married in any state. Bravo! I wish my own state (Florida) had done it first to rake in that disposable income lavish wedding money.... I'm a capitalist at heart.

    I despise that Trump has expanded the droning program; and sad that this doesn't get more press.

    I hope that if he is reelected he scales this back so that those "people over there" can heal and one day learn not to hate us. I hope that if reelected Trump extends his peacenik ways.

    ...I do understand the need to defend Trump, you would never vote for a guy as bad as they say Trump is. I also understand how once a person starts defending Trump, doubling and tripling down on defense is more of a necessity, because to admit he did wrong now after all those defenses would be admitting you did wrong...

    The last time I voted for a democrat that promised to fix healthcare; I lost my healthcare, I lost my doctor and I lost my home.

    Your damn right I'm going to defend Trump.

    I remember when Obama began his reign; one of the first things he did was remove Clinton's welfare to work requirement, making sloth a viable career again...

    One of the first things Trump did was enable any veteran to shop at the military exchange...

    They both played to their base.

    ...I believe if the Dems had run him for President - he would have made a much better candidate!

    Today's democrats are about power. They no longer care about convincing people that their ideas are better, they will move whatever pieces, via whatever means for power.

    If they had a ounce of respect for their voters 2016 would have been Sanders vs Trump, but Sanders would not have given them the power they want, Hillary would have.

    For 2020 they shunned Tulsi Gabbard. Gorgeous military veteran, who is smart and well spoken. Bernie again was leading but they shoved Biden to the forefront because of power.

    They goal? For voting to no longer matter like in any dictatorship.

    My question is: why does California keep re-electing them?!?!

    Voter fraud.

    My theory is the more entrenched democrats become in an area, the more prevalent voter fraud becomes, the more brazen their politicians are with their "screw you" laws towards their constituents.

    You seriously think AOC would have been reelected in a landslide WITHOUT voter fraud? She's done nothing for her constituents and caused Amazon to change their plan to build a warehouse in her district.

    You also need to look no further than the cities where riots are occurring. Does anyone think citizens that live there WANT the riots and looting? Jobs destroyed, businesses destroyed and lives. I bet people in those areas want what the rest of the country want, to live their lives, work, go out to a movie, but they can't. They live under a 1 party rule.

    There is a recent Project Veritas video where votes are being purchased in Ohmar's district.

    https://www.projectveritas.com…cheme-corrupts-elections/

    ...I had to look down at the front of my shirt to see the "brave" shirt I was wearing. I responded, "It's Triumph motorcycles" giving her a perplexed look. ...She wasn't the first person to think it was a "Trump" shirt.

    Something similar happened to me and a friend of mine.

    We went out to dinner and I had my Triumph logo shirt with the Union Jack background.

    The waitress whispered to us "I'm a Trump supporter too", I responded "This is Triumph motorcycles; so please be careful." knowing if she made the mistake with the wrong person they might be mentally unstable enough to cause a scene or worse causes her to lose her job.

    Around here, during the last shortage, We just bring 4-5 buddies that don't shoot a lot with us so the 1 or 2 shooters get 2-3 boxes each at each store we go to that day....

    My wife did suggest that; I may do that or I may cling to the excuse so I can go frequently to look at pew pews...