Posts by TheRock

  • Summit Point, WV Track Day (Sun, Apr 24th 2016, 8:00am - 8:00pm)

    Quote from ethermion

    Over the years my brother has spent enough money on camera gear to buy Tango's sling. And he has a knack for it, I think. That is probably 10% of the pics he took. The rest were not up to his standards.


    Funny, the last pic is me. Looks like I am going fast. That is serious photography skills.


    Copyright to all those who tracked at Summit Point, WV on April 24, 2016. The pics belong to us who were there. Go for it dude.


    Awesome! Please thank your Brother from all of us!!

  • Track day not good

    Quote from cmykpro

    Better to go on the side of freedom of expression. These things will work themselves out on their own, they always do. I believe the majority of the members here came here to get away from locked/deleted threads and censorship. If it's more of the same why would we even be here... JMO


    I am done with the subject and I won't be part of dragging it out anymore, but I also agree with @cmykpro most of us came here because of over moderation on the other thread, so my vote is to leave it open. If you don't like what's going on in this thread, don't come in it... I sure won't be visiting this particular thread again...

  • Track day not good

    Guys I am deeply saddened by the news of loosing one our own. This BS squabbling has no place anywhere other than here, in this thread. I hate that it is here, but this is the place where it needs to be hashed out. It's obvious that Noel either didn't see an issue with what he posted or he just didn't care. Not sure which. But its also obvious that some of us took heartburn with what he posted. To drag the tragic event of Jim's death into this thread to be used for making your point is downright shameful.


    Quote from jorgebri60

    We're all wondering how that monster did before the unfortunate incident. What was is like being behind the wheel of that monster. I, for one, would like to know what it feels like compared to a stock or TC'd sling. Is is heavier? does if feel more solid and stable....etc....that kind of stuff. If @Tango decides to share what happened, then so be it, but can we please move forward on this before it festers into another mess like we had "over there"?


    As for how it felt to be behind the wheel of the Monster, I can't speak from experience as I was next to get behind the wheel but never got my turn! ;) I can say that the Summit Point circuit is EXTREMELY technical with only a couple good straight aways. That being said, there isn't a lot of room for big HP to show it's dominance on this track. Bone stock Slings and boosted Slings can pretty much run neck and neck with similarly skilled pilots behind the wheels. Of course I am speaking HP wise, tires and suspension are a different story entirely with all the tight turns. I do know that @Tango was definitely not showboating. As it has already been stated, the first time he took it out, which was the 4th or 5th time for the rest of us, he got passed by pretty much everything on the track. Not because he doesn't have skill or the V8 couldn't handle the track, but because he was being smart and feeling her out.


    Watching the video of the incident, his lines for the entire lap prior, were very clean and smooth. The Sling appeared to be handling beautifully. Speed was nowhere near excessive. Coming out of a right hand turn beautifully and starting to straighten up, the rear end seemed to suddenly come loose and the sling went left basically T-boning a wall. It was very strange to watch, if I hadn't known better, it looked like somebody falling asleep at the wheel and veering off to the median. Obviously @Tango didn't fall asleep on the track... before someone doesn't read in entirety. The point is that it was kind of a freak thing, nothing @Tango could have done to prevent it really, the back end came loose and the Sling just became unresponsive. I can say that the thing sounded mean as hell!! It really did have the sound of an angry beast being awakened from a deep slumber.


    Watching him take it up down the street a couple times, you tell just by watching @Tango and his occupant that it definitely had throw you back in your seat big power when he would burp the throttle. I don't know that a turbo'd sling could ever feel anything like it as the power of that V8 was obviously instant!!

  • Summit Point, WV Track Day (Sun, Apr 24th 2016, 8:00am - 8:00pm)

    Quote from Orangeman

    Ya think ..... smile-squared




    Uhhhh.... TRIKE WARS!!! I had no idea we were in a war?!?! I thought if anything we would be a brotherhood of Trikesters!! Sure, our Manufactures may be competitors, but that doesn't mean there should be any bad blood between the owners of Slings and Invaders. Its all kind of starting to make sense now though... I am curious to see the video footage now... bet there isn't one scene where Slingshots are passing Invaders!! :00002178:


    BUT I HAVE PLENTY OF FOOTAGE OF IT!!!!! :00008698:

  • Summit Point, WV Track Day (Sun, Apr 24th 2016, 8:00am - 8:00pm)

    Quote from STYLN

    That is some fantastic info! Thanks to everyone that posted! ! I watched @TheRock video twice already. That's some awesome driving skills. I wish I lived closer to you folks cuz we have nothing going on like that here is Cali that I have seen! Great job and gun event and glad everyone made it home safe!!


    Jon the shirts were awesome!! Thank you for hooking us up with great looking apparel for an awesome event! Most everyone was sporting them. @Tango hooked @Turbosling and DJ up with a couple as well. @Turbosling we expect to see a couple pics of you guys wearing your shirts! ;)


    If you are looking for a move, we do have some of the most awesome Slingshot owners around in this part of the woods
    (nah... I'm not biased at all ;) ) and there is a house for sale 3 houses down from me!! :D Just sayin' :D


    I think next time I might have to put in a larger order for a bigger variety of stuff and set up some stands!!

  • Track day not good

    Quote from Flybuddy

    Seems like a case of shooting the messenger. Accident DID happen and it obviously had a cause. People always tend to try and draw quick conclusions but, either way, I'm glad someone reported it (more glad that no one hurt). Noel's 2 cents is worth 2 dollars in my opinion on most things.

    Not sure where you see a case of shoot the messenger. This messenger delivered a message that no one asked to be delivered. Let's say your son asked his girlfriend to marry him and instead of getting the good news from him, you find out from someone on Facebook you don't even know. For those of us that call @Tango friend, this was inappropriate. I don't know how @Tango feels about it, but I was pissed off for him.

  • Summit Point, WV Track Day (Sun, Apr 24th 2016, 8:00am - 8:00pm)

    Quote from ethermion

    I talked to a guy named Chris, forgetting the last name. Claimed it was his company. Definitely not friendly.


    3rd hand rumor that the owner was part of the wreck. Heard from my brother, who was also without firm facts. If the takeaway from my post was otherwise, I apologize. Two invaders were off the track when I passed. This is true, and I take no pleasure from that. Only saw the one damaged rig in the pit. Quite possible 2nd invader stopped out of compassion.

    Oh okay, that makes sense. So Sandy Hall is actually the owner. Chris Hall is his brother who runs the production line. Sounds like he was maybe talking up his "role" a bit unless something has happened that I am unaware of...


    @ethermion no need for apologies. I can't believe anyone would take anything malicious out of your post.

    Quote from ethermion

    I heard from somebody who heard from somebody who heard that one of the drivers was the owner of Tanom.

    I think the whole "I heard from somebody who heard from somebody" is an inherent disclaimer that this information may not be 100% accurate. I don't see that you did anything wrong buddy. I was just making sure that @Andy Hatch didn't have bad info being that he know Sandy.

  • Summit Point, WV Track Day (Sun, Apr 24th 2016, 8:00am - 8:00pm)

    Quote from Andy Hatch

    To my friend, the Rock:


    He hosts, he wrenches, he drives like a SOB.
    My canoe camping groups annual fundraiser was great but looks like you had a blast. This old man is going to have to sharpen his skills and I'm sure you will help do that like you do with the wrenching.
    I know Sandy Hall, the owner of Tanom and his factory is 15 minutes from my house so if the gang wants to make a list of issues I will present it to him personally. He is a decent guy who sounds like had a less than stellar day. Last year he invited me to join him on a similar track day which I couldn't attend when he saw my Sling in front of the local rental store. I think all of us need to take a step back from some of the conflicts in our Sling community such as differences with vendors, competitors, forums, etc. and give Sandy credit for trying to bring a product to market without the resources Polaris has. He might even have better quality control, LOL. Besides, we always have our political "leaders" to divide us.
    Once again, congrats on what looked to me like a great time you set up based on all the comments here. Now be ready for more wrenching as I have more goodies coming (cosmetic ones).


    Hey Andy!!! Hate that you weren't with us but I'm glad to hear the fundraiser was great! Not sure who told @ethermion that the Invader that crashed was the owner, but it surely wasn't Sandy, he wasn't there at all. Not sure what was going on this time. Last August when we did track day, most of them were very polite. We looked over their rides and they looked over ours. We talked about our rides and mods and seemed to show respect and appreciation for each others rides. This time had a different vibe. I will say that the majority of the Slings were ass stomping the Invaders though. I never had an Invader pass me, but I know I passed several!! :D I know that if I had paid $60K for a vehicle and was getting my ass schooled by guys in $24K vehicles, I probably would be a bit miffed as well. :cursing: Even those that have some performance mods, such as myself, turbo, JRI shocks, Nitto 555s, I'm still well under $33K... thats gotta hurt.


    Anyway, I don't fault Sandy for how his customer base is behaving at the track. I have talked to Sandy a few times, on the phone, email and in person. He seemed to be a very cool and down to earth guy. He offered to give us a factory tour back in August, which I am very interested in doing, so I guess I will make that my next project to put together. I'll see if I can nail down a date and maybe we can get a group together to do some riding and go down to Sandy's for a tour of the factory where they build those things. As much as I love my Slingshot, I still appreciate the Invader for what it is and if I had the money, I would have one of those sitting in my garage next to my Sling! :D

  • Track day not good

    Quote from FLSLING

    @WraithSS i read the string and to be blunt i am going to chime my 2 cents, i can and will vouch for @Noel Hughes and cyclesprings, this is one of the most sincere, caring, always there for others first that i know of, the feedback is causing drama, there was an accident- FACT- Slingshot is down-FACT- no one is hurt-FACT, please be careful-, IE please be careful, looking out for others, to disrespect him or cyclesprings because there are concerned and want all others to be safe is good in my book, brakes, whatever....you want my opinion...well i am giving it, the day you drive on a track with your SS, expect a 50/50 chance of getting in a wreck, even the pros will tell you that, unlike you, i will always buy my toys from C.S. they are the most caring folks i know.


    So I badly want to ignore this, but it obviously is point of contention with many of us. It's a sore that none of us seem to be able to stop picking at.


    The FACT is that Noel didn't have all the correct information and he posted some crap half cocked. Anyone who has been around this forum or the other for any amount of time knows what @Tango's Sling looks like. It is very distinct, with the red mirror housings and front splitter. Not to mention, how many V8 Slings are out there?? Posting that picture and his extremely poor choice of wording "V8 can't handle the track" and "Track day not good" was simply bad form. Does Noel KNOW that it had ANYTHING to do with the V8? Does Noel KNOW that the track day wasn't good? If you ask me or pretty much anyone else there, including @Tango I bet they will tell you that the track day was a blast!!! I sure had an AMAZING time running my Sling around the track and hanging out with my people!! Did we have an unfortunate accident? Sure. Sometimes, shit happens. I have no doubt that anyone who was there hates to see or hear of the unfortunate incident. Does that mean the whole day was an absolute wash? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!


    How I see Noel's post was not concern or sincere caring, it was an opportunity to be the first to say I know something you guys don't, hey look at this. And I can sell you CRAP to make your Sling not end up like this one! Fire Sale!!! And for the record, the V8 had massive 6 piston calipers with enough stopping power to stop a full size truck... as a matter of fact those brakes are bigger than the calipers on my full size truck!! I say this because the comment about in proper brakes (I interpreted as improper brakes) implies that the machine didn't have proper brakes to stop the big V8 power being made. Plenty of stopping power and then some! AGAIN, not that brakes had ANYTHING to do with it as the incident happened after acceleration out of a turn... dunt dunt dun

  • Summit Point, WV Track Day (Sun, Apr 24th 2016, 8:00am - 8:00pm)

    Quote from WraithSS

    Officially jealous! Looks like you and Lewis had a great time. Thanks for posting up the video brother.

    I had several folks come and tell me they had a great time. There were some who said they were a bit on the fence, but ended up having an absolute blast. You can just about drive as slow as you want or as fast as you want, plenty of track for everyone...


    The only thing is some folks need to learn some track etiquette. There were some Invaders that weren't as fast as Dharma or myself, and instead of just letting us go around them and continue about our way, they tried to play NASCAR, making for a couple hairy situations. It's not Race Day, it's Track Day. Everyone is there to ride their own ride, if the rider behind you is faster, simply move to the side, allow them to overtake and continue on. This also takes the pressure off you to try to be faster than you are... that's when $h!t happens!!