Posts by Orangeman

    Watching the press availability between Joey and the PM of Japan.


    They should have just handed the cards Joey was reading from to the interpreter because it was obvious he didn't utter a word that wasn't printed on the cards. Even with the cards he forgot to pause so the interpreter could catch up.



    ........... bored-squared


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    He is not selling anything. Big difference between bargaining for a deal on an item for sale, and fudging your financial statements. Financial statements are not negotiable, they are a representation of your business performance at a set point in time (when the statement was created). Does it change, yes, is it a negotiable number. NO.

    ...... The only way your claim holds true is if market valuations were a fixed commodity and as you know that is false. Business value, real estate, a person's marketability, value of influence, and how they will perform in the future are in fact always negotiable.


    .......millionaire-squared


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    OK...back from a quick 18 mile bicycle ride ... finally warm enough down here I can enjoy it ..... ;)


    Sparcky I have to preface this with I don't blame you at all for using the language you have since that is the way it is reported by most.


    Like this little bit of propaganda I have seen and heard in reporting at least a 100 times:

    ...................the loaning institution didn't do their full due diligence.

    Only this one is not just word play but a whole cloth distortion of fact meant to make the reader/listener believe that something untoward was in fact done but the banks were too incompetent to find it.


    Um......no......


    Officers from the banks testified in open court that not only did they fully review then gladly accepted the "financial statements" as presented, but would do it again. That is their prerogative and the definition of due diligence.


    No harm no foul and everyone had a happy ending.......


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    I am not disagreeing that the loaning institution didn't do their full due diligence. The issue is he falsified his financial statements, to benefit getting what he wanted. That is fraud anyway you look at it. Just like if you falsify info on your mortgage app, or loan app to the bank and get caught. Its fraud.

    What financial statements did he falsify, and please be specific.


    The case is based on the assertion that he inflated property values on loan applications, period. Which again is not illegal or "fraud". Wordplay doesn't make it true, which is why it will be overturned on appeal.


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    It's irrelevant the fact he got a loan and paid the loan back, it's about the fact he falsified information to get the loan at preferred rates that would not have otherwise been attainable. Falsifying information to get something is fraud, not matter how you look at it. Whether it's was the average Joe who falsified info to get a loan or a mortgage, or Trump who does it. Fraud is fraud.


    When you use property for collateral you hire someone who will evaluate that properties estimated market value at the highest possible amount, present that value, and then it is up to the loaning institution to accept that value or have their own appraisal done and counter. You do the opposite when it comes to tax valuation. That sir is how it works (unless you are a moron) and is in no way "fraud".


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    Problem is Kanye while not the same level as Fuentes, has publically stated he like Hitler, and Nazi's. I have a hard time believing that Trump has no idea who many people are, as he has used that statement many times. Just because he has never met them, or been photographed with them, he has no idea who they are.....gets him out of his jam, but I still believe it's BS.


    Ah yes, I forgot......we should judge/condemn people we don't know/have never met, based on public opinion, biased reporting, because we are told to, and out of fear from our opposition, rather than actually waiting until we find out who they are, what they actually think/do, and discern for ourselves why.


    Otherwise...


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    Don't forget about Trump courting Fuentes last year at dinner. White nationism, christian nationalism, is part of the right side of the spectrum.

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    Fact: Fuentes was an undisclosed and uninvited guest of Kanye West as a member of his personal entourage to a dinner party at Mar a Lago. President Trump didn't know who Fuentes was and had no interaction with him at the function. The aftermath fractured the relationship between President Trump and and Kanye who has not been invited back to any functions since.


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    The last time I went to the doctor he suggested to get a stimulator. I do not know anyone that has had one and whether it works or not. Until then I will just keep on with the Hydrocodon to take the edge off and just like the past two weeks that has not helped and I refuse to take more per day.

    Wife has a permanent Medronic Intellus spinal cord stimulator (IMO the current best) to control the chronic nerve pain from her damaged arm (probably should have just cut it off) and fusions from C2 to C7. After 5 surgeries she was maxed out on Opioids, nerve blocks, and muscle relaxers before they did it. She is now just on Gabapentin. Literally saved her life and gave it back to her.


    I hate Doctors but after living through it would urge you to at least consider talking to a rep (Medtronic reps are all medical professionals who are involved in the surgeries, not salesmen) if your doc thinks it could help. Can't say enough about the result, care, follow up, and support they have given her over the years. Rare these days.


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    Bill Martin


    Councilor,

    What IMO makes this so criminal on the part of the Judge is that even after all the valuation deductions afforded by Palm Beach for a historic property and about a dozen other things (my tax base value is around 1/3 of my Insurance appraisal which is lower still than estimated sale value) a simple public records search shows just on the residence (not the club) over $525K was paid in property taxes in 2022 with a tax valuation of over twice what the Judge claimed. How is that not the absolute minimum valuation by law.




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    Thought I would post this here so not to derail "Lets see those dogs!!! And cats or whatever pets you have" thread.


    Been leaving these all over the SE for about a year now ...





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    I'm no big fan of Ronna McDaniel. It's no secret but I think it's full-on way over the top obvious for the last couple of years. Can these executives be that stupid it's not noticeable? I got so fed up with BS shows like "the view" "morning Joe" which I from time-to-time check in but quickly change the channel in disgust. Don't these executives take a moment to stop and think that disgust might carry over to other viewership among total program viewership? Is it at the point they just don't care?


    "undermines that goal.” What is their goal?


    Looks like the cat is out of the bag now! :D


    They have to pay out her two year contract and word is her phone hasn't stopped ringing with high profile lawyers wanting to represent her against the network and all the on air personalities who slammed her for the 48 hours leading up to her dismissal.


    Not a bad payday for a single interview .........


    ........... angel-squared


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