Posts by AllIn5450

    Your back pedaling so hard now that you need to get one of those back up beepers they put on garbage trucks.


    Now that you mentioned the "Housing Crisis" financial disaster, and I am just going from memory here but I seem to remember the Democrats jumping up and down claiming that the "lower class", "lower income earners" and the down right poor could not afford to buy or qualify for loans for housing which I think back then were called "McMansions".
    So in the name of "Equality" and "Spreading the Wealth", the Democrats pitched a natural hissy fit because the banks loan standards were out of reach of people that wanted to buy $250,000 houses with 1% or 2% down because they didn't make enough to save more.
    If memory serves me correct, The DEMOCRATS demanded a more level playing field for all and wanted, no demanded that the banks approve more loans to the "downtrodden" people that wanted to buy a house.
    So, the banks started approving loans to people that could not afford houses, especially $250k houses, and then the banks tried to protect themselves by selling the loans that they knew would default so they would not get stuck holding the bag when the inevitable happened.


    As for the rest of your post.
    We all get it......... we all understand where you are coming from.......... You make a good democrat.......... They will be proud of you..........
    And by the way..... Now days a source is considered a web site as in Foxnews.com, cnn.com, nbc.com, Breitbart.com, and yes, even TREASURYDIRECT.GOV. But if you still want to continue to split hairs from the same old sour PIG, please be my guest. You are not fooling anyone.

    PEACE......LOVE......ALL HAIL TRUMP :00008040::00008172::00008356:

    While you obviously made a valiant effort here, these are not the numbers from my source.

    They are DIRECTLY from your source, Just from the page that allows you to search the national debt DAILY. What better way to see the spending of each President than while they actually held office and had some control of the purse strings. That info is about as unbiased as you can get.
    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    So, contrary to your claim, your numbers did not come from the same source.

    See Above.


    In fact, the only link to a source that I can see is to yet another 3rd party analysis and that is only for the summarization.

    That is correct, only the summary is from another site, and is just for informational purposes only, to show just how FUCKED the country is because the "leaders" do NOT want to let the tax paying public know just how bad THEY have fucked up with our tax money and how much we ACTUALLY owe. I do not believe the government should be able to spend money that it does not have. IF I ran my business like the government is run, the IRS would have thrown me in jail A LONG TIME AGO.


    I don't care what Obama did because it has already been done and there's nothing that you or I can do to change that.

    YOU are the one that went back and claimed some of the spending of Obama was a result of Bush, not me. While I agree with your assessment on the spending overlaps, the same will apply to Trump during his first term as President. He will be blamed for the failings of Obama during the time it takes him to fix it and recoup some of the money Obama wasted.


    My point is that opinions are like assholes - everybody has one - and most of them are based on unreliable, biased data. That's it, nothing else.

    I agree with you on opinions. That is why I posted UNBIASED IRREFUTABLE FACTS, straight from the government.


    What it proves is that politicians have lied, cheated, and said anything to make their political interest look good and we the people are guilty of just accepting same.

    AMEN!!!!!!! Well........some accept the propaganda, but there are some that actually use their brains and find the TRUTH. And those are not called "socialists". =O

    That would depend on how you define "spin", @Bill Martin. My point was that people are basing their "informed decisions" on incomplete information, such as the chart you provided, which is not really a chart, but just a graphic. Not only does you graphic tell an incomplete story, it is also inaccurate. Keep reading.
    As you suggested, I did do the fact checking because, as I am about to prove, you did not. Of course why would you? After all, you EARNED the RIGHT to argue from the heart, not the mind, right? So, Counselor, I pulled numbers from the U.S. Treasury Dept. showing the outstanding National Debt, by close of fiscal year, and here is what I found. The errors in your graphic are the $6.3T and $6.5T. Since you provided no source for your numbers, let us use the numbers provided by the Treasury Dept., which are $10.02T and about $6.1T. That's right, as of FY2008, and not quite the end of Bush's term, the National Debt was at $10T, not $6.3T. Now, let's look at the rest of the story. While it is true that the national debt increased about $6.1T under Obama's first term, what your graphic does not show is that under Bush, the National Debt increased about $4.35T, from $5.67T. While you can argue that the increased debt was numerically larger under Obama than it was under Bush, your claim that the increase is greater than the debt accrued before Obama took office is false. Further, the attempt to hide Bush's impact on our current level of debt, by lumping it together with all the previous presidents before him, has been revealed and provides a clearer picture of the truth. Therefore, you have successfully proven my point, which is that even highly intelligent people can look like fools when they use someone else's half-baked analysis. Thank you, Counselor. :thumbsup:


    If it makes you feel any better, I too have proven the point by making a fool of myself plenty of times. :D
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    Lets look at those numbers again according to YOUR source.
    Debt as of 1/19/2001 = 5,727,776,738,304.64
    Debt as of 1/19/2005 = 7,613,772,338,689.34
    Equals total for Bush Term 1 = 1,885,995,600,384.70


    Debt as of 1/19/2005 = 7,613,772,338,689.34
    Debt as of 1/19/2009 = 10,628,881,485,510.23
    Equals total for Bush Term 2 = 3,015,109,146,820.89
    For a grand total of 4,901,104,747,205.59


    Now for Obama
    Debt as of 1/19/2009 = 10,628,881,485,510.23
    Debt as of 1/19/2013 = 16,432,619,424,703.06
    Equals total for Obama Term 1 = 5,803,737,939,192.83


    Debt as of 1/19/2013 = 16,432,619,424,703.06
    Debt as of 11/10/2016 = 19,840,574,291,147.01
    Equals total for Obama term 2 (so far) = 3,407,954,866,443.95
    For a grand total of 9,211,692,805,636.78


    Needless to say, Obama out spent Bush MORE THAN DOUBLE.
    Debt increased
    REAL unemployment increased (not good)
    Part Time job employment increased (not good)
    Full time job employment decreased (not good)
    Those NOT looking for work increased (not good)
    Government assistance recipients increased (not good)
    Companies leaving the US for overseas increased (not good, see above)
    Immigrants invading country increased (not good)
    Government costs related to illegal immigrants increased (not good)
    Murders committed by illegal immigrants increased (not good)
    ALL UNDER OBAMA.
    Now those are mathematical facts, from YOUR source.


    This amounts to:

    • $60,832 for every person living in the U.S.[2]
    • $158,604 for every household in the U.S.[3]
    • 106% of the U.S. gross domestic product.[4]
    • 565% of annual federal revenues.[5] (not good, LOL)

    * At the close of the federal government’s 2015 fiscal year (September 30, 2015), the federal government had roughly:

    • $8.3 trillion ($8,279,000,000,000) in liabilities that are not accounted for in the publicly held national debt, such as federal employee retirement benefits, accounts payable, and environmental/disposal liabilities.[12]
    • $26.7 trillion ($26,661,000,000,000) in obligations for current Social Security participants above and beyond projected revenues from their payroll and benefit taxes, certain transfers from the general fund of the U.S. Treasury, and assets of the Social Security trust fund.[13] [14]
    • $28.5 trillion ($28,500,000,000,000) in obligations for current Medicare participants above and beyond projected revenues from their payroll taxes, benefit taxes, premium payments, and assets of the Medicare trust fund.[15] [16]

    OK, So we all need to know the answer to this MEDICAL question.
    As I fear this is a serious concern as the fear and worry of the left wing protesters gets more and more media coverage.


    And just for "some" peoples knowledge.
    I may come across as a hard, right wing crazy person BUT, I did vote for Trump, a republican....But I voted AGAINST Marco Rubio, a republican, so that means I voted for a DEMOCRAT.
    I also voted for a DEMOCRAT for a local election too, but sadly, the Democrats I voted for lost in the end. Karma for me??????
    I did this because I have an Independent MIND, look at what they SAY AND DO, and decide which one I think would be best for the JOB they are RUNNING for, not which PARTY they choose to run under.
    HILLARY CLINTON was never even an option for me, based solely on what she SAID and DID, what she SAID and DID NOT DO and what she said she DID NOT DO but DID DO!
    Trump said what he INTENDS to do, and that is why I voted for him, I will have to wait to see if he actually DOES what he SAID he will do.
    But so far, and he is only President-Elect Trump, He is making America GREAT again.
    And the "Protestors", "SJW's", and trophy participation recipients need to cut it out, because Trump is NOT

    ARE YOU SUFFERING FROM TRUMP ACCEPTANCE RESISTANCE DISORDER (TARD)?


    November 13, 2016
    Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time. Sufferers of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of rage, uncontrollable crying, suicidal ideation, and extreme sadness.

    SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS: People with Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again. Individual sufferers often display signs of paranoia and delusion; in acute cases psychotic episodes have been observed. Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is different from being upset about the results of the 2016 presidential election; People with TARD are unwilling or unable to accept reality, despite irrefutable evidence. According to the DSM-V, individuals with TARD exhibit most or all of the following symptoms: – Telling others they are moving to Canada – Fixated on fantasies about the Electoral College

    – Protesting an election no credible source contests the outcome of – Exclamations that “Someone” should do “Something” – Acute change in demeanor from pompous and arrogant to fearful and combative – Claim that anyone who disagrees with them is some combination of Racist, Sexist, Bigoted, Homophobic, and actually some sort of Hitler persona CAUSES AND MECHANISMS: Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder was directly caused by the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States of America. For many, both in America and worldwide, this was a shocking and unexpected outcome; their preferred news sources having failed to inform them that the alternative candidate was a criminal parasite in such ill health she got chucked into the back of a van like a kidnap victim. Research is ongoing, but TARD appears to correlate closely with the following environmental and behavioral factors: – Membership in the Democratic party – Identifying as a Feminist – Currently enrolled in college, and/or – Possession of a Liberal Arts college degree – Cuckoldry – Living in a densely populated metropolitan area – Massive student debt – Spotty or non-existent work history – Hipsterism

    DIAGNOSIS: Diagnosis of Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder is straightforward. Ask the patient if Donald Trump is going to be the Next President of the United States of America. Some patients will become agitated, and may attempt to deflect. It’s critical you press them on the issue, even if they start babbling about ‘muh triggers’. A sufferer of TARD will begin to ramble incoherently, often displaying three or more of the symptoms within a short period of time.

    TREATMENT: The only known effective treatment is exposure therapy. The patient must be repeatedly exposed to reality, and should wear a Make America Great Again hat as long as they are able to tolerate it. Each exposure should increase in length, after a week the patient should be encouraged to be seen in public wearing the MAGA hat. Coach the patient to refer to Donald Trump as President-Elect Trump. Patients with TARD are very resistant to treatment, and dangerous in large groups. Any possibility of treatment requires that they be separated from their hive-mind support apparatus; they cannot begin the process of accepting reality in the presence of encouragement towards delusion and irrationality. Separation may require the assistance of law enforcement. If you have a friend or loved one suffering from TARD, urge them to seek treatment. Together we can beat this scourge, and Make America Great Again!

    You'all better move down here to Florida Rab. You and Bill Martin will love our redesigned Wendy's here. Plus they give you 25 cent senoir drinks!!! lol

    Our Wendy's is the same old shit hole it has been for the past 10 years.
    I guess I am going to have to do a road trip and get some Wendy's and Wings.
    Evidently yall get all the good shit on the coast.

    What the hell could they be protesting?
    When Trump said it was rigged, The dems said there was no way it could be done.
    o now they are saying it was rigged??????
    If it was, then why was all the ballot machines changing the votes for Trump to Hillary??????
    I NEVER saw an article saying Hillary votes were being changed to Trump, so the cheating going on was by the Dems.
    Are they mad that the election process worked?
    The left wing media is analyzing the voting to death, they can tell you who voted how, what race voted for who.
    They need to accept that they lost, and America will prosper once again, despite them trying to destroy it.
    Whiny bunch of cry baby pansy assed bitches is what they are.
    They need to be like sling beast and just disappear.

    Don't worry
    In a few hours we will never hear from him again once Trump wins.
    And the dems can't claim a rigged election since they all but said it is impossible to rig one.
    And Hillary already said once it is decided, that is it, the people have spoken.
    I did my part, I voted.