Posts by Ghostwheel

    Oh...and one other item. Any of you making the long haul and going to Slingshots in the Rockies? I will be leading two rides. Would love to forget politics and ride...that's why I have the thing...to zen out and go away. Will I be meeting any of you? I promise not to talk smack :) I am sure I would regret it if I did anyway :)

    Hehe. I knew I would get a few replies for that little essay with all of the conservatives in this room. However, a big thank you to all respondents for being passionate, yet polite. Even Alln5450 who had a lot of passionate things to say didn't attack me personally (stupid lib, ignorant leftists...whatever). So thanks for keeping it civil.

    All valid points. Only one thing for me to add. As a centrist, I would support an assault weapons ban. But anything else (including that misguided thing my own state did with magazine sizes) would lead me to put a check in the "vote for someone else next time" column (which I did). It is not an issue I am passionate about...until I start seeing what I would define as over-reach. And restricting access to rifles, handguns and other items...is over reach.

    @mikepasling This is one I think I can debate a bit. As a centrist, who leans left, I will not be voting for Trump (probably not HRC either-in spite of what many here will say I DO think ALOT about who I vote for and why-and do research) but my own personal experience leads me to believe that the 2nd Amendment fear is a bit unfounded.


    I have many friends and acquaintances who are middle-left, and we do talk a lot of politics. There is a constant theme though, that they all agree with. Like it or not, America has a gun culture. We needed them for our independence, and we have never let them go. So be it. Most of the people I know on the left actually agree with that. Yes, ban assault weapons (unless you have a permit), but as for the rest of it, stricter bans or meddling with the amendment is a waste of energy. Here is the logic we used in our discussions.


    We can see some basic reasons for gun ownership:


    • Hunting-Needs a hunting rifle, not an AK/AR/M-Whatever
    • Home protection-Shotguns FAR better than assault weapons-you wont kill your neighbor through the walls
    • Protect us from the government if they “come for you”


    One and two are self explanatory. And most of the people I know have no problem with that. Let people own their guns. It makes them feel safer, and the majority of Americans WILL take personal responsibility for its use.


    #3 is the silly one.


    If the US government “Comes for you", having an assault weapon will give you one form of protection. You can die playing Rambo instead of hiding. IF they want to kill you, some guy in Nevada is gonna push a button on a console, the drone will hit it’s target, and then he will take another bite of his ham sandwich. The Iraqis had plenty of assault rifles…didn’t work out too well for them. No, if the government turns on us, it really is over.If you think this really could happen-best to bail now. Personally, I can't see it.


    Why do I have this faith? Easy. I am from Colorado. We have legal weed here. Why? One reason-revenue. No matter who is in office, money runs the show, and the gun industry in America is just too big for any government to handle. Far better to latch on to the teat and take the tax revenue from gun sales. Then-use the gun control issue to divert the attention of the populace while we spend that tax money on things they don't want you to know about. Get them afriad that the government will take thier guns, and they just might miss things like ransom payments.....


    That being said, there are many other things to fear from a Dem in office. I don’t need to list them for you. But, at least in my opinion, one of the things the right doesn’t have to worry about from the left is over-reaching gun control. There are too many other ways to move their agenda forward that are a LOT easier.



    Just my $0.002-Not looking for a fight. I only have a 12 gauge anyway….you assault rife guys would take me apart from 300 yards.

    Well...we are hoping to get a group together to ride up Thursday. The Friday rides leave at 8AM from Avon. I am hoping we can meet up at Gforce Thursday morning and head up. Would you be able to join us?


    Oh, and that WAS me you passed in Loveland this last weekend...going north while you were headed south. Didn't get a good look at the new mods though :(


    --Jim

    Hey guys,


    A quick note on this. I am sure the vendors will love having as many as possible come up for the day. That being said, there are some legal liabilities that have to be accounted for if we are gonna pull this off. If you don't register for a ride and sign a waiver, we can't really take you with us as part of the group. Ivor has the details on that. Just letting you know. Thanks, and I look forward to seeing all of you!

    You know the Mt Evans ride Blue. The other one I am leading is over the Mesa, with an exit a DeBuque for a very interesting stretch of road not common in Colorado. Then over the Mesa highway. We can stop for lunch in Cedaredge and then decide if we want to go back over the Mesa, or take the highway 50 loop through Payonia and back to Glenwood. If you haven't done that one, I am sure you would enjoy it.