Posts by Ghostwheel

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    No. At least not in my opinion. That is giving the government too much credit. That's the problem with some (not all) of this type of thing. It assumes they are somehow competent enough to orchestrate all this. Is it possible? Sure, but in my mind it's so unlikely that I am not at all concerned.


    I know would be be quite upset if something like that were to happen. Any circumstance which extends his term would be too disasterous. The slaves would revolt. They want us all working and paying taxes.

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    One other note on this Bill, that may help account for our differences-Career.


    You were in Law. Focused on precedent, justice and morality, and measuring behavior by comparing it to law, as well as previous behavior. I grew up in the every changing world of tech. Neither world is more valid than the other, and we need both. But, I do think it contributes to differing agendas.

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    I wish I could go there Bill, but I can't really do that either. Just like in your long post earlier, many of the things you claim to be "a problem" are things that I see as "hope". Here is an example.


    I don't want to see the Ten Commandments ANYWHERE. Nor do I want to see anything Muslim, Shinto, Jewish or anything else. Religion is like a penis. I am happy for you if you have a large one, but keep it private please.


    There are things you mention like work ethic, a respect for law enforcement and a respect for human life that I think everyone can agree on. But once again, from my own experience, "strong" family units (which usually equates to an authoritarian parental figure) are part of the problem, not the solution.


    So yes, we do agree that we the people are as much to blame as the elected officials. But what you see as "the path out", I see as a step back. I my Utopian world, religion is not needed. People know the difference between right and wrong, and don't the the crutch of religion (or the fear of burning in hell) to behave with kindness and compassion.


    I am quite proud of this country for all of the progress we have made. For decades we were leading the world with our values, beliefs and ideals. However, the world has changed, and we have not. I now find myself VERY impressed with the thought processes of my European colleagues when I travel there. We have kinda become like the old, doddering uncle who lives in the past and wishes for "what was", while the rest of the family leaves us to wallow in our self pity and marches forward towards a new future. Equality for all (sexual orientation included), Freedom FROM religion (it should be a choice), the government BUTTING OUT of a woman's personal choice (etc). The real problem is, as a people, our personal agendas have been drifting further and further apart. I would blame the media, but we all consume willingly. Maybe no society is meant to last forever...maybe it is our destiny to tear ourselves apart. I just don't know. But what I do know is that I am PERSONALLY responsible (guess that makes me a fake liberal) for the way I treat people, and the way I make them feel. Every time I injure someone...EVEN IF I AM IN THE "RIGHT", will be tallied on my personal karmic balance.


    For me, the path to peace is personal responsibility, which can't be enforced, taught or delegated. We have to own up. This is where my faith in humanity fails. So, all I can do is monitor myself and hope the world does likewise.


  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    And...my experience has been the opposite. It is a large enough country that it is certainly possible. We are both built by our experiences. I am sure you beliefs are valid for who you are and what you have seen...as are mine. Now, the question becomes what is the experience of the "average voter"...which is what usually determines elections.

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    It's a valid opinion Bill. Funny thing is...I want the same thing (in general) that most of my conservative friends do. The difference is how we believe we can get there. That is why I usually (but not always) vote left. I can't vote Trump under any circumstances though. I just can't. He represents what I view as the real evil in the country...Runaway Capitalism, Oligarchy and Corporate law. So no can do. I don't think this election will even be close unless T seriously turns his shit around. Maybe the GOP should focus on an electable candidate after Hillary's first four. If they pick a moderate, and she does even half as poorly as everyone on this thread seems to think she will do...she will lose 2020 in a landslide.


    And as for the Walmart thing....I don't believe statistics either way, because I have seen reports of both as far as numbers go. But, what I do believe is that their stupidly low wages does allow many of their employees to collect federal benefits...forcing the feds to basically subsidize their employees. In my mind-That's pure evil. So, again, no I don't believe there are a "bunch of free-loaders" out there. I believe that corporate America has driven people to desperate measures, all in the name of cutting costs and increasing profits. Most people who collect aid, don't want it. Hell...my immigrant neighbor (whose runs a lawn mowing business, has the nicest looking house on the block, and a bunch of Hispanic kids running around with Tatts)-hates the fact that he is stereotyped. Most Hispanics don't WANT welfare. They want to work. And they are far better at it that most of us old, soft white guys are.

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    He probably believes that Obama really was born in Hawaii-Most Americans do


    is not a muslim sympathizer-This is pure fiction-Faux News fact I assume


    did not lie on his college paperwork-Irrelevent.No one I went to college with was honest on their application


    believes that Obama's birth "certificate" that was produced is ACTUALLY LEGIT-Most Americans believe this


    Thinks that being a "community organizer" is qualified to be president, but believes a business man that does business internationally is not-Not accurate. Ignores years of political experience


    Believes that Hillary did not lie, has never lied, and will never lie, about anything-Politicians ALL lie. It's how they get elected. If they were honest, the system would flush them long before they get a presidential nomination


    Believes the Clinton Foundation is totally legit and should be a charitable deduction for their tax writeoff-Hey-This one is probably not believable by anyone. Score: 1


    Believes that Bill "did not have sexual relations with that woman-Nobody cares where Willy's Willie goes.


    Does not believe that Hillary is a closet lezbo-Again...don't care. Most people don't


    And finally, believes that Hillary's past is all made up and does not believe the "bad stuff" he hears could possibly be true BUT believes every single thing that comes up about Trump regardless if there is evidence or not-I know a lot of Hillary supporters who will be pinching their noses as they vote...just like Trump supporters. they are all crooked. It's just a matter of whose views fall closer to anyone's personal agenda/beliefs


    believes Hillary is honest as the day is long-See above. No one believes this. But if you believe you are voting for an honest candidate in any election-you are wrong.


    believes Hillary always makes decisions that is best for the people, not the Clintons-No candidate does. Personal interest is what dirves both parties


    and believes that the freebies that the democrats give away does not come from hard working people, but just falls out of the sky from the glittering rainbow that Obama made because "you didn't make that"-"All those Freebies" have been drastically over-blown by Faux News. Most of the people I know on Welfare and assistance are Wal-Mart employees.

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    True dat. I console myself with one thing. Obama was ineffective because the Congress hamstrung him and made the executive office irrelevant (which is why he tried so many executive orders). These two will be the same. The presidency is largely a figurehead...there is real power there, but the checks and balances in place are pretty effective.

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    Yeah...and they should both stick to it. Not that it matters....Trump is done. I just hope HRC doesn't fuck it up so bad that the country dissolves. But...she won't. Every election I have ever been through is the "End of the World", and none of them have had much impact on the average voter.

  • Conservative Politics & Daily Events Discussion

    Seriously...trying to poke holes in the inegrity of these candidates is a waste of time. Might as well yell at a fish for swimming. Let's just agree that they are both corrupt idiots and move on. There is no merit in pointing out their flaws....they both have too many flaws to be good people. But, we have to choose one.