Posts by @aceperformance

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    The development Sling is back in the hands of the owner and he is getting used to the closed loop traction control for torque management and loving it. All of the critical engine values as well as a custom Launch Control page are displayed on the Plex SDM300, this is fed thru CANBUS from the ECU to the Plex. This dash is a true motorsport unit and is extremely flexible in configuration.


    Here are some pictures of the installation and the vehicle. We will be doing a video explaining the hardware soon. Please feel free to ask any questions.


    Emtron will be at SEMA. The Slingshot package is exclusive to ACE Performance as we developed the integration but please do go and talk to Nick at the booth as he knows this package well.


    Let us know what questions you have.

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    Hello all - I know its been a while but we finally were able to complete this ecu project (we were delayed on getting a test vehicle).


    The Emtron ecu package is installed and along with controlling every aspect of the engine (including foreced induction requirements - boost control, wideband) the advanced motorsport traction control feature allows the slingshot to keep accelerating while regulating torque and sensing wheel spin. The traction control sensitivity can be regulated with the addition of an optional knob. Launch control is also an enabled option.


    Attached is a teaser shot of the installation.


    I am sure that the owner of the vehicle will post his input as soon as he gets some long awaited seat time.


    Please feel free to ask any questions. We will have a full detailed description of all the features of this kit and the pricing very soon.


    Thanks!

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    The system is tested and we have validated that our motorsport traction control strategy will work as well as the speedometer and rpm gauge.


    We are just waiting for a sling to complete the calibration of the ecu and install the Plex dash.


    After this final step is completed we will share all the kit details and it will become available for retail.


    Thanks.

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    Quote from rydahog

    just reading some of this,,and not sure i get this,,but is your product good for NON-TURBO ,,,i mean,,base ecu tune for me, to make it run better, like squeeze a bit more HP and street performance..? and or reliabality for our ss...:) hope i got my point across./thanks

    This Emtron standalone ECU is good for turbo and non turbo applications. This ECU will benefit both applications. We listed some of the improvements on page 1 of this thread.

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    Quote from MACAWS

    That sounds like a much cleaner install than other options.
    Once you make your formal announcement I will call with a barrage of questions.

    This is the ECU just placed (factory ECU is still mounted and no Emtron bracket). The plugs will tuck also out of the way. This should give you an idea. If you want to discuss anything by email as we are happy to do that as well.

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    Quote from MACAWS


  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    Quote from jluna317

    trying to find out if the display unit is water resistant or proof i believe i was told that it was

    The Plex SDM700 display is IP67 sealed - this means it is sealed against dust and immersion in water up to 1m. The other displays SDM300/500 and USDM100/102 do not meet this certification and should be placed in an area that does not directly expose them to the elements.

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    Hi iNewton,


    I think the best way to make comparisons is to look at the ECU specifications side by side, however this is difficult as different ECUs support different functions in different ways (but they are all called the same thing). The last thing we want to do is turn this into an ECU bashing thread (not that you are, just saying).


    That being said, things that come to mind quickly regarding Emtron VS Haltech:


    More logging space (and faster if needed)
    Ethernet comms
    More tables and runtimes (provides more flexibility, especially for closed loop functions. There are 5 setup pages and 24 tables available for boost control alone)
    User definable CAN bus (not locked to brands, which allows us to have more control in house with developing packages like these - quick development time)
    Closed Loop Traction control (on top of launch and anti-lag)


    Tons of other stuff can be enabled at no charge as well. Gear shift for sequential transmissions (including air system control), and more.


    In general, ACE actually supports Haltech products as well, but in this case we looked at what was out there and found enough advantages to design this with the more advanced control system.

  • there could be another ecu on the market soon

    Hi, ACE here. Started writing this while waiting for verification. Thanks!
    Figured we'd throw in some tech info for those that had questions. On our site we have some details about the ECU specifically we are using (Emtron SL4) - http://www.aceperformancesystems.com/emtron-sl4/, and you can read more about Emtron on http://emtron.world from the Emtron official site that is WIP.


    First, we are not in the business of knocking ANY other competing control system (stock, or aftermarket). What we do is have constructive conversations with our customers about what they are trying to achieve with their projects. In this case, some of the features and functions that were sought after made the Emtron ECU a logical choice over anything else that is out there. We quickly evaluated Jluna317 slingshot and it was clear we could improve even the simple creature comforts like idle speed control, fuel management, and just basic drivability (which most don't care about at the standalone level - we do).


    As the videos above showed. We already have the platform running with nearly everything configured. We should be finalizing the calibration soon here on our Dynojet, which we plan to document in one of our blog posts like these : http://www.aceperformancesyste…e-management-integration/


    Ironically (that's a joke), that vehicles "troubles" with management were totally cured with a full ECU replacement like the one we are doing here. That particular vehicle had a very fast turn around time as well even though we came from a "clean slate" just as we are with the Slingshot.


    So far Jluna317s slingshot already starts easier, runs cleaner at idle, and has faster/better response regarding throttle input. The ECUs fine control of injection PW at low engine speeds already has his larger injectors characterized well enough to run a proper stoich gasoline mixture. This is with only a few minutes worth of mapping after start up. It really demonstrates the Emtron ECUs ability to properly control engines.


    A "short" list of new features the ECU will support (in no particular order of importance) :


    Closed loop Boost Control that can be mapped for limits, compensations for temp/gear/speed/etc (patch kits come with a flying lead for boost solenoid)
    Closed loop fueling correction with short and long term learning (using wide band sensor - additional)
    Closed loop individual cylinder knock detection with short and long term learning
    Closed loop idle speed control using DBW (with idle ignition functions)
    Speed density air/fuel mass modeling
    Launch control (ECU function - separate of stability)
    Traction control (ECU function - separate of stability)
    Engine protection (temp, pressures, limiters, limp, etc)
    Additional safety features (limiters, limps, etc)
    Flex fuel capability (future, requires additional hardware)
    Continuous logging (16mb of looped logging up to 500hz per channel)
    Expansion function to add more sensors and outputs
    Separate CAN stream for connecting to theoretically ANY other aftermarket component/data logger/dash/expansion system (user definable, not limited by brands, etc)
    Fuel flow corrections based on differential fuel pressure (effective pressure, especially during boost) using the factory returnless fuel system, and the ability to upgrade to proper rising rate fuel systems and take a real fuel pressure input for active correction.
    Turbo speed controls functions like Boost control, Launch Control, and even Anti-Lag
    High speed Ethernet communication for the ECU (for calibration, live data, ECU log file download, and more)


    This all on top of supporting the following factory functions :


    All factory sensors (temps, cam, crank, position, knock, etc)
    Factory Drive By Wire (with complete ability to remap sensitivity, offset target by speed/traction/boost/limp/and more - with all factory safety features)
    Factory safety features such as Roll Over Protection (interface with factory sensors)
    Variable valve timing control
    Factory ignition coil control
    Factory injection control
    Factory fuel pump control
    Factory fan control
    Factory switch inputs for Clutch/Brake position (enables launch control functions, and more)
    CAN integration features (TBD, so far we have defined nearly all the CAN PIDs, have the steering working, and more)


    Everything has open config and full mapping capabiltiy. The ECU also is like a "black box" and continuously records a specific logging set


    ** CAN support for aftermarket systems is generally limited. It is too early to say what will or will not be supported completely. Projects at this level of modification should be more concerned about proper EFI control which is the main purpose


    ** Vehicles pushing higher boost pressure should have proper rising rate fuel systems to maintain effective fuel pressure


    Our time is limited for forums/social media as we concentrate very hard on completing these kinds of projects, but we will do our best to monitor these threads to reply accordingly.