Posts by Red
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Bernie Sanders has just dropped out of the running for President
If something happens to Joe, Hillary could jump right in at the convention. Let me be the first to say Biden didn't kill himself.
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At first I thought people weren't wearing masks because they weren't taking covid-19 seriously. It could be they can't deal with smelling their own breath. They didn't know how to wash their hands maybe a little instruction on brushing teeth is in order.
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"Promote the captain to secretary...."
Let me help you here.
SecNav is a civilian position. They would need to kick the captain out of the navy to make him the Sec. So you want him kicked out now?
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Not effective it hasn't been oiled.
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most of the virus deaths reported So far are up to Age 49....
What’s the average age of those sailors? last I heard there were 155 sailors on that boat tested positive..... I’m going to go out on a limb and guess there are not 155 ventilators on that boat...so already he had the possibility of Up to 155 deaths....
not enough for you? What’s your acceptable number? IN PEACE TIME....You don’t have to be in the service to see he did the right thing....you don’t have to graduate high school to see it.
I’m talking about the saving lives part...we already know he violated protocol...again that’s a judgement call .....I’m very sure he agonized over it before doing it. He picked the right thing to do....
if your kid was on that boat and the captain did nothing and your kid died from the virus ....would your tune change.....would you blame the captain for their death or would you say...he followed protocol....and that’s the way it goes..... too bad kid.....you gave your life for nothing ...At least we weren’t at war....Or would you blame upper management?That's a lot if words for not answering the question. Nobody is the correct answer, nobody died. Still waiting for those names.
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weak link secretary removed
Captain is still there and will be.
Just need a few more under the secretary removed
Interesting spin.
The acting sec removed the captain and himself. "There" for the captain was the command chair on the Roosevelt, he is not there.
Who else give us some names?
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."he Was in the foxhole and jumped on the Grenade ....he needs the Medal of Honor..."
He threw the grenade that he jumped on, Medal of Honor LMAO.
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Killing your own people in peace time sounds perfectly normal?
liberal, lefty, socialist, commie thinkingNorth Koreans does that
China does that
No patriotic person in the United States should be ok with that.Who died?
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You have some corrections to make. You clearly don't pay much attention when Bigdog comments. He is a Trump supporter through and through. When comparing posts from him to posts from you that are in regards to Trump, smart money would be on him getting on his knees to service Trump before you.
Kissing his ass, not blowing him, well, or, never mind.
Correction added to the original post.
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Brings a whole new meaning to wok your dog!
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trump is going to make the decisions about the captain and the “acting” naval secretary....wait for it....this isn’t over by a long shot....If you don’t like trump...you don’t know trump...
Art Institute of PGH...
my number was 126....they stopped inducting at 124....For the record I didn’t write the Captains medal count info.
yep....He proved he’s the bigger idiot....
My opinion is....public sentiment is going to be with the hero captain...all the way.
Navy head....gone sooner than later...
Thank you Bigdog for the info it helps me to put your opinions on military matters in perspective. Approaching an issue without experience creates a different perspective. I can now see your only real interest in the ex captain of the Roosevelt is to bash Trump. I get it you hate Trump as you have indicated. The concept of chain of command is for you only a concept not a part of your experience. OPSEC and chain of command are more than a concept to me so our opinions do not match. You can pick your heroes and I'll pick mine, a Captain that fails his mission is not a hero to me. He allowed his ship be compromised and announced it to the world, he needed to be removed and was. The now the ex acting SecNav removed the weak link and them stepped away. That's best case for Trump, the bad man is gone and Trump didn't need to do it. Now a new captain can be assigned without the ex SecNav tainting the selection.
Correction: WOLF has pointed out that you worship Trump not hate him, I stand corrected. It appears your hatred is reserved for Modly.
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one thing I found interesting - - Secretary of Navy goes on a Ship and uses unprofessional language to admonish the ex Captain for doing something he should have known would go public when it shouldn't - - So shouldn't the Secretary of the Navy have known that his admonishment and off color language would also go public when he probably didnt want it to???
it seems hypocritical to get upset about someone letting something go public when you are doing the exact same thing
Or it's an example of how loose the crew is when it comes to information. The crew following the Captains example. What was said in the ship wasn't passed outside the ship by him.
Bad language on a ship full of sailors what is this world coming to?
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Quick comparison: "Thomas B. Modly is an American businessman and government official who has served as Acting United States Secretary of the Navy since November 24, 2019. He served on active duty in the United States Navy as a helicopter pilot and spent seven years as a U.S. Navy officer." Compare this to: "Brett Elliott Crozier is an American naval captain (U.S. rank O-6) in the United States Navy. He entered active service in 1992. He made multiple deployments in support of U.S. 3rd, 5th, and 7th Fleet operations, numerous exercises and Operations Southern Watch and OIF. A partial list of his earned honors, awards, and decorations: Naval Aviator Badge, Legion of Merit w/ 1 gold service star, Defense Meritorious Service Medal w/ 1 silver oak leaf cluster, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal w/ 2 gold service stars, Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal w/ 1 gold service star, Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation, Navy E Ribbon w/ 2 Battle E devices, National Defense Service Medal w/ 1 service star, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal w/ 1 service star, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Navy Sea Service Deployment, Ribbon w/ 3 service stars, Navy & Marine Corps Overseas Service Ribbon, Command at Sea insignia." Which one of these two do you trust?
captain has more than a boy scout merit badgeBigdog Just wondering which branch if the military did you serve in?
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I don’t think the good hero captain will get a presidential pardon....I do think that his commanding officers and this guy....Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly.....are going to have some ‘splaining to do...in front of the president.....
My prediction....Captain keeps his rank....gets his pension and gets to sail a desk...or quietly slips away....
acting navy guy ...might not get the academy award...for his acting...The commanding officers could get an ass chewing....and the entire incident gets swept under the rug ....after a review of the entire situation...
but guaranteed Trump is absolutely going to find out everything about the entire incident.....
the navy has been totally embarrassed by this fluster cluck. And I’m guessing unless something seriously was mishandled they will want this to go away really fast...CYA is seriously in play...from all angles ...Unless something has changed he lost his ship, no demotion or discipline. Same pay minus sea pay as he is no longer at sea.
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a fully loaded aircraft carrier With its air wing is the most powerful weapon in the world ...besides a nuclear bomb. worth over $13 billion ...not counting planes and crew.
A very critical peace of equipment....having hundreds of sailors incapacitated is also a critical situation...
in hind sight which is always 20/20...the port Of call was a stupid idea. but did they have the up to date info about the virus at that time? I still don't think we have it all now...He embarrassed the higher ups exposing their incompetence and now the cover up....make the captain look bad ...he’s taking the fall....I think he knew that full well.....that makes him a hero in my book.
what were they waiting for? not doing their job...and they got caught with their pants down ...he exposed the truth...smells of cover up....by the higher ups. Shit rolls down hill...he’s at the bottom..they are probably making up evidence as we speak...If he had canceled the port call all those cheering fans would have hated him and the higher ups would have praised him. He failed to protect his crew and threw himself on the court of public opinion to try and save his ass. He was wrong if even for a good reason he was still wrong and gets to pay the price. If he was ordered by his superiors to let people off the ship they will pay as well.
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I get that security aspect....but who would they hang if sailors started dying....by the hundreds
the way I see it he was in a Catch 22 situation....screwed if they died and screwed for saving them.....he’s still a hero...he chose to do the right thing with no regard for himself....he is a hero...a real man....someone that I would want to have my back.Why is it so hard for people to realize he’s knows what he did Was wrong..His previous pleas for immediate help were ignored......he made the decision to save everyone’s life.....admit he saved lives.....in peace time...not war..
he knows he could face court Martial, he knows he could be discharged....he knows he might not collect his pension.....he sacrificed his enter future to save those sailors.I put the blame Squarely on his commanding officers for not taking the appropriate action when it needed to be taken....they put the sailors in danger...they wouldn’t take any blame if sailors died....they would have blamed him....to Save their asses..he was screwed either way.
the guy that fired him just flew to Guam and announced on the ships PA system to the crew The captain was an idiot ...not fit to command ..he’s coving his ass because he failed to do what was needed...He was embarrassed by the captain...pitiful ...The article answers some the questions you raise.
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