I don't think the mirrors are useless at all. If you set them to wear they are barely have the vehicle in the corners then you got excellent visibility with very little blind spot. I don't worry about who is behind me when riding down the road.
The mirrors on my 2017 SLR are rock solid and I like to see what's behind me. POPO's gonna get you dude.
Don't remember the exact cost to UPS the wheel back, but I think it was in the $30-50 range. I felt it was smarter to do that than just keeping a wheel I didn't want/couldn't use. Fortunately, I only had to do it once as the AM wheel I bought had a SH..load of clearance around the caliper.
I ordered two seats from speedway, cost was 160 including shipping. Return shipping was going to be 100.00 buck so I said screw it and kept them.
When I first started looking for low-cost wheels that would accommodate wider tires on the SLingshot, I tried a wheel from JEGS, IRC, but ended up returning it when I carefully mounted it and realized it only had about 1/16" clearance between the wheel and the brake caliper. Just check on the firm's return policy before you order and be prepared to pay more than a few Dollars to ship the wheel back if you need to return it.
I was originally going to have a stock Base wheel widened, but realized that can add its own complications and added costs such as a spacer to handle the changed Offset.
The shipper will skin you alive on return shipping.
Thought I'd start a new one since the last one turned into a train wreck. Just wondering if anyone has installed one like this.
Have you checked out the new Wing yet? more nimble and auto is spot on.
Ya but I wouldn't care for another one.
Happy (it's been raining all day)Independence Day
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
He then tried to blame the reloads and how some guns don't do well with reloads. I explained that my wife's Sig ate it all up and spit it down range without issue.
When I first bought my SR 1911 it wouldn't shoot my reloads which worked flawlessly in my XDS and XD tac. Sent it back to the factory twice and they couldn't find any problems with it shooting factory ammo (they didn't know anything about reloading). Then I bought some extra mags for the SR 1911 and along with those mags came a little yellow card explaining why ammo may not work in any semi auto hand gun. I made some rounds that were longer oal and boom... shoots great now. XDS and Tac eat em up just like they did before.
@War Hoop man I almost pissed my pants laughing there !
I know what Polaris problem is now. When Goldwing shut their plant in USA and went back to Japan they left behind many engineers. Polaris must of hired those engineers because they think all people are fat. Goldwing rides like a lumber wagon with someone who weighs in at 177, that's why I sold my wing. These guys seem to think everyone in America weighs in at 350 lbs. They also like to brag about how the goldwing has more parts than their cars do. No wonder they took goldwing back to Japan and left the engineers here.
MadStad Single Adjustable 13", modded to mount about 1" closer to the hood during cooler weather. Still allows plenty of airflow under the windshield during the summer. It can actually be set so low I have to raise the windshield before opening the hood.
When you have your top on does it get rid of the turbulence the front bars produce?
I replaced the Lower front wing with a rear spoiler. Does that count?
Got tired of having to adjust the Lower Front Wing after critter encounters during night rides.
I'm still thinking about redoing my DIY brackets.
I was wondering what your ride looked like without any dirt on it. 
What windshield you running?
Only the empty curb weight of 1750 is self imposed, the F.M.V.S.S. ONLY regulate the GVWR of 2,200 lbs So as long as Polaris wants to call it a two seater, not a single seater, they have to deduct from 2200, Two standardized adult weights of 350 and 60 lbs for fuel . so that leaves 1790 and no allowance for luggage and belly fat so Polaris wants to stay at 1750 Lbs empty weight to give themselves 40 pounds of leeway for luggage.
OK now I understand, they have to turn out a crappy top because of weigh restrictions. I sure hope that works out for them.
I thought they outlawed screwdrivers in Commiefornia...
Huh? These are Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards, War Hoop, Polaris has absolutely no say?
Bill
I'm mostly talking about the weigh limit of the slingshot. That's mostly self imposed by Polaris as I understand it.
Display MoreWar Hoop, may I recommend your doing a wee bit more research, lemme help you get started:
Copied from another thread: "start at about post 40 at Motorcycle classification weight "
kev wrote:
Well you asked for it so here it is , make sure you study it all ! The empty weight of any motorcycle is not the limiting factor as far as regulations and certifications, its the GVWR . if you check your compliance label you will see Polaris has a published GVWR of 2199 lbs . This is because the maximum motorcycle gross weight for certifying they are in compliance with the F.M.V.S.S. (federal motor vehicle safety standards) and their appropriate motorcycle manufacturer sections is 2200 lbs or in Canada 1,000 kgs. and for the purpose of calculating GVWR manufacturers have to use a standardized person weight , this also includes aircraft manufacturers , and all manufacturers of anything under the Department Of Transportation. That magic standard number is 175 lbs per person (or seat) . they must also include an allowance for fuel and luggage.
So when you work the equation backwards, Polaris,s certifies they don't exceed the 2200 lb maximum by carrying two passengers at the required standard of 175 = 350 lbs , 60 LBS for fuel and 40 lbs for luggage, (this can be actual luggage or options or extra belly fat exceeding 175 lbs) which leaves an empty weight (curb weight) of 1750 lbs. So there you have the reason Polaris will always be limited to 1750 lbs curb weight. For the purpose of certifying compliance they only have to use the curb weight of their standard models , and standard weight persons, and an allowance for luggage or overweight , options or persons. it would be impossible for any manufacturer to know how many options or bellyfat lbs an operator may operate at , so therefore they cover Thine ASS, with written disclaimers on all their accessories pages that it is the operators responsibility to operate in accordance with the GVWR
Resources, this is where it gets mind boggling, keep in mind it is not just the FMVSS there are also any number of pieces of legislation or Acts as well as their appropriate, constantly evloving Regulations, I will link and list the most applicable here including f.M.V.S.S.But the definition of motorcycle in F.M.V.S.S.is currently evolving with applied for regs that aim to exclude three wheel vehicles like the Elio and others currently being imported form overseas because they have , doors, hinges, and operating side windows, and fully enclosed. meaning they claim those are too much a car to be considered an auto cycle. I will link that proposed Reg.
I will aslso quote and link an agreement between Japen ,U.S.A. and CANADA AND OTHERS to all use the same standards as your F.M.V.S.S. I will link CANADAS AND YOU WILL SEE THEY ARE THE IDENTICAL STANDARDS. These countries all in agreement to manufacture within the same F.M.V.S.S. So are all honoured in each others countries. that's why Slingshots built in Alabama can be sold in Canada without question and Spyders BUILT IN Canada can be sold in U.S.A without question and a whole slew of Japaneese motorcycles .
So since the U.S. currently changing definition of motorcycle and autocycle is still evolving I WILL LINK THE ALREADY spelled OUT AND LINKED, MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY ACT, OF THE MUCH MORE ADVANCED COUNTRY KNOWN AS CANADA !! just joking ! RELAX ! It clearly defines already the motorcycle tricycle (spyders) and auto cycle , known to us as a three wheel motorcycle , as both having a clearly spelled out GVWR of 1000 kgs (2200 lbs) and keep in mind Since Canada is party to the F.M.V.S.S. agreement these GVWR limits are in accordance with the same F.M.V.S.S. the U.S. applies, Therefore all CANADIAN MANUFACTURERS AND POLARIS ARE ALREADY CERTIFYING AND MAUFACTURING TO THIS G.V.W.R. max of 2200 lbs as we already know how to read and properly publish them (just joking again but you get the point) .
RESOURCES
link to federal register to view any sections of F.M.V.S.S. (hard to navigate)
Federal Register
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Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; Motorcycle Brake Systems; Motorcycle Controls and Displays
LINKto U.S. F.M.V.S.S.that pertain to motorcycle manufacturing
mcpkg002.pdf
site for regulation , applying to change U.S.MOTORCYLE DEF TO EXCLUDE ELIO TYP THREE WHEELERS
View Rule
Canadas, vehicle safety act defining motor tricycles, (spyders) AS HAVING 1000 KG GVWR
Also defining our autocyles category, as three wheel vehicle,(SLINGSHOTS) AS HAVING 1000 KG GVWR
Canadas C.M.V.S.S. this Canadian chart shows all the motorcycle standards from motorcycle manufacturing .F.M.V.S.S.. are identical to the CANADIAN MOTORCYCLE ONES and if you study the Canadian chart you will see which ones apply to motortricycles (spyders) and which ones apply to three wheel vehicles (slingshots) your autocycles.
Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations
Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations
C.R.C., c. 1038
MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY ACT
Regulations Respecting Safety for Motor Vehicles and Motor Vehicle Components
Short Title
1 These Regulations may be cited as the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations.
three-wheeled vehicle means a vehicle, other than a competition vehicle, an antique reproduction vehicle, a motorcycle, a restricted-use motorcycle, a trailer or a vehicle imported temporarily for special purposes, that
- (a) is designed to travel on three wheels in contact with the ground,
- (b) has no more than four designated seating positions, and
- (c) has a GVWR of 1 000 kg or less; (véhicule à trois roues)
[*]motor tricycle means a motorcycle, other than an antique reproduction vehicle, that
- (a) is designed to travel on three wheels in contact with the ground,
- (b) has seating on which all occupants must sit astride,
- (c) has no more than four designated seating positions,
- (d) has a GVWR of 1 000 kg or less; and
- (e) does not have a structure partially or fully enclosing the driver and passenger, other than that part of the vehicle forward of the driver’s torso and the seat backrest; (tricycle à moteur)
What you just showed us is that any corporation/government can complicate the hell out of something simple. What you copied/pasted here I call the 9/10th bullshit rule.
That is right here taken directly from Kev's post:
"So when you work the equation backwards, Polaris,s certifies they don't exceed the 2200 lb maximum by carrying two passengers at the required standard of 175 = 350 lbs , 60 LBS for fuel and 40 lbs for luggage, (this can be actual luggage or options or extra belly fat exceeding 175 lbs) which leaves an empty weight (curb weight) of 1750 lbs. So there you have the reason Polaris will always be limited to 1750 lbs curb weight."
Bill
But that's a self imposed rule that polaris wrote, if they break it they are not breaking any state or government laws. That's the way I get it.
If your really interested in not over steering or under steering just ride/drive in ditches. You will have a left bank and a right back on each side of you to keep you centered.
Not trying to make excuses for Polaris, but considering the weight restraints they are under with the SlingShot, are they maybe trying to get a too sophisticated look using too light of materials?
Bill
From what I have read those weight restraints are set by Polaris and I think there trying to cut their own throats with them. Once word gets out that it's a shitty product no one will want to buy it, and that's just what's happening.
