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Quote from Edward Neal

But you have made it very clear that you are more willing to believe anything anti Trump and far less inclined to believe anything anti Democrat

And the words to support this have come repeatedly right out of your mouth

On many occasions you have gone on and on about how you have always hated Trump and have done so since long before he became president you have even used his past deeds that you think were wrong to justify your continued hate going forward. - - as such its pretty clear that the view you have of anything Trump is one that is seen through colored glasses

Seriously, I love you man, but you wear your bias on your sleeve

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There you ago again. I never once said I "hate" Trump.

Quote from Funinthesun

Mathew, thank you for pointing that out to me (listen to her and investigate me, I did nothing wrong). I must have forgotten that one with some of his other statements: My son did nothing wrong. He EARNED that $85,000 per month as a valuable board member of an energy company in the Ukraine. That ranks right up there with his hero saying, "I did not have sex with that women - Miss Lewinsky" We all know how that one played out

Or pick any one of these and see just how straight forward the Honorable Joe Biden really is

https://www.realclearpolitics.…politicians_speeches.html

or this one

https://shaunking.substack.com…and-31-lies-joe-biden-has

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I never said Biden was straight forward or honorable. I also said repeatedly that his son working for Burisma looks very wrong and should be investigated.

I feel like you guys twist everything I say because you really, really want to believe I'm as left as you are right. I am not.

Quote from Bill Martin

Your never going to admit that the accusations against Biden as opposed to Kavanaugh are far more provable and egregious. Let Biden withstand what Kavanaugh did and let me see you defend him then - for that matter even Trump is a boy scout. You are one of those folks in the jury that lawyers fear most - ya prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt and they vote against you anyway - jury nullification!!

You guys are adorable. I never said Biden was innocent. Nor did I defend him.

Quote from Bigdog

MSM is not delivering news anymore.....they are delivering propaganda....designed to look like news...

everything is a Conspiracy.....

And you think that CNN (aka the CLINTON NEWS NETWORK) does report the news instead of creating the news?

Quote from Bill Martin

Your never going to admit that the accusations against Biden as opposed to Kavanaugh are far more provable and egregious. Let Biden withstand what Kavanaugh did and let me see you defend him then - for that matter even Trump is a boy scout. You are one of those folks in the jury that lawyers fear most - ya prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt and they vote against you anyway - jury nullification!!

Bill. Shhhh, don't tell anyone. I think the accusations against Biden are far more PROVABLE. Which is to say, they can be verified more easily.

As for Biden or Kavenaugh accusations being more egregious. They are all pretty egregious. If they actually happened the women would surely agree they were all equally egregious.

Quote from WOLF

I feel like you guys twist everything I say because you really, really want to believe I'm as left as you are right.

Not all of us brother!!

Quote from Bigdog

you can tell it’s real because “me too” would be screaming for the Biden To be arrested..if he was a republican...“me too“ is a Democratic political organization. Pretty obvious by their SILENCE.....

everything is a conspiracy

I'll probably be stoned for saying this, but it's funny how the younger generation refers to everything as "hash tag this" and "hash tag that" well, back in the day, the "me, too" movement would have referred to as "pound me, too" ...lol

Quote from WOLF

There you ago again. I never once said I "hate" Trump.

You sound like a politician - - - you may not have actually said the word "hate" but you have made it clear how you feel

its what you do here - whenever confronted - you try to deflect and redirect the conversation and avoid the truth - - - - if I didn't know better I might think Wolf and BigDog were the same person using to screen names

During this time of being confined inside your home is a great time to point out the differences in Presidents. Our current leader is forced to be kept inside sharing space with his wife

While Bill Clinton has to do the same

Nancy's little cousin is thinking ( that in itself it a major step forward ) of letting some schools open by June. Wonder why....?

Could it be the little ones are getting a steady diatribe of anti- government indoctrination from the parents at home?? I will bet that at least 90% of the kiddo's have heard mom or dad "express their options" about the shut down in some form. Can't have that now can we? Perhaps the Harvard professor's fears are felt in all the blue states. Got to KEEP the little ones minds right.

(https://http://www.foxnews.com/us/harvard-homeschool-article-dangerous-parents-risk)

Now get this - - Apparently because a media source says something is true we are supposed to just say "okay"

What democrats are now pushing at the new talking point:

“Biden believes that all women have the right to be heard and to have their claims thoroughly reviewed In this case, a thorough review by the New York Times has led to the truth: this incident did not happen.”

please forgive me - - - I did not know the New York Times investigated - - - - - - - WOW!!!!!

edit - - - not so fast - - New York Times says talking points not true - they did not exonerate Biden

Quote from SoCal

Nancy's little cousin is thinking ( that in itself it a major step forward ) of letting some schools open by June. Wonder why....?

Could it be the little ones are getting a steady diatribe of anti- government indoctrination from the parents at home?? I will bet that at least 90% of the kiddo's have heard mom or dad "express their options" about the shut down in some form. Can't have that now can we? Perhaps the Harvard professor's fears are felt in all the blue states. Got to KEEP the little ones minds right.

(https://http://www.foxnews.com/us/harvard-homeschool-article-dangerous-parents-risk)

I am sure what you say has something to do with it,

But I also suspect that people have been letting their displeasure with their high school senior children missing out on their graduations and this "biggest day of their lives" known to Mr Newsom

Also I must admit that having a granddaughter in high school I am glad this is not her senior year - - I went to a small school where it wasnt a big deal, but these days the Senior prom, Senior ditch day, Senior trip to Disney land & graduation are things I am hopeful she will still get to experience

Quote from Edward Neal

You sound like a politician - - - you may not have actually said the word "hate" but you have made it clear how you feel

its what you do here - whenever confronted - you try to deflect and redirect the conversation and avoid the truth - - - - if I didn't know better I might think Wolf and BigDog were the same person using to screen names

I don't deflect. I explain in what way you are wrong.

You recently "redirected" a conversation about media bias and never touched on any of the points I made. You just went in a different direction and then eliminated Trump from the conversation. I didn't do that, you did.

Not liking my answers, doesn't make them off topic or a redirection. I answer almost every one of your allegations, misquotes, misconceptions and false statements squarely. Then you get upset because you don't like my answer.

You like, Yes/No answers, sorry I'm not far right or far left where absolutes live.

I don’t want to go here but....I am....

everything is a conspiracy....

had to add a better video...

Quote from Bill Martin

Now we are getting back on the same page bro! To be perfectly honest I really got a problem with these women waiting DECADES and then go public with sexual assault charges when someone is seeking high political office. It cannot be disputed that the media is in the bag for the Dems and all the “Me Too” screamers are somehow silent now that it’s their guy is getting accused. Why do these women come forward NOW!! Blasey Ford’s agenda was abortion - she was pro abortion and feared Kavanaugh would be the deciding vote to repeal Roe vs Wade. Biden has been holding a public office since they invented the wheel. It has been said Tara Reade remained silent while Biden was VP because of her love of Obama. Say that was true. He was only VP for 8 years. Why not go public in all those years he ran for office prior to being tapped for VP by Obama. I’m sure behind closed doors this is the Dems worst nightmare after their shameful treatment of Kavanaugh it has blown up in their face by one of their own. It cannot be disputed that no woman should be accosted sexually or otherwise BUT women can be just as cutthroat as men. I want to know what Tara Reade’s motivation is and WHY she waited so long. I believe Biden AND Reade should be scrutinized the same way Kavanaugh’s accusers and Kavanaugh himself were with an FBI investigation. Biden just being allowed to say he is innocent then moving on is unacceptable. Right now that sage old saying “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander” certainly is applicable !!! Seems to me that if a woman waits 20+ years to come forward to attack a public figure laws and procedures must be drafted so that justice must be applied equally. This problem seems to be a part of political life now and all affected parties should know what lies before them when an accusation is made. After all we know politicians lie - surprise surprise - SO DO WOMEN !!!

I have a theory on Tara, self admitted Dem., who worked with Biden for years.

It's a conspiracy. Her, Biden and the Dems dreamed it up. It has a one-two punch. They get to "catfish" FOX and Republicans. Getting them to say everything opposite of when Trump or Kavenaugh were under the microscope.

The big, damning proof is a complaint under seal. Trump can and will eventually unseal it. Then the Dems and media will blast Trump for once again interfering and using his position to help win an election.

The kicker, the only thing from Tara in that sealed document is a glowing endorsement of Biden as the guy that saved her somehow.

Tara will then say she was confused. It was a long time ago. Some expert will confirm that victims sometimes blame those that were there to help over time....

there is only one accusation worse than rape....that’s child molester....Biden’s on the verge....

Quote from WOLF

I don't deflect. I explain in what way you are wrong.

You recently "redirected" a conversation about media bias and never touch on any of the points I made. You just went in a while different direction and then eliminated Trump from the conversation. I didn't do that, you did.

Not liking my answers, doesn't make them off topic or a redirection. I answer almost every one of your allegations, misquotes, misconceptions and false statements squarely. Then you get upset because you don't like my answer.

You like, Yes/No answers, sorry I'm not far right or far left where absolutes live.

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First I must say, I am sorry about the BigDog statement - that was not called for

Now though I must say I dont agree with your self assessment. You always say you are a moderate yet the stances you seem to take on issues are very middle of the road democrat - yes you are not socialist far left, but not even close to what I would call moderate - - perhaps its your youth and the fact that I have seen the entire Democrat party expand further and further on the left end over the years, But for me the center has never moved.

I guess when you are younger the idea of where the center of the political spectrum is might be viewed very differently than it would be viewed by someone 5, 10, 15 - 20 years older

Heck in my book JFK was a right smack in the center of the left as a Democrat - - yet if he were around today taking the exact same positions he took back in the 60's you would probably consider him to be solidly in the right - - these days JFK would probably easily get the Republican nomination were he to run for president - and the views you have expressed here are easily what I would classify as solid mainstream democrat views

I mean seriously - just because some consider people like AOC to be democrats that doesn't not make normal Democrats moderate.

On the other hand I do consider myself more of a moderate conservative than I did in the past as my views are much closer to those of JFK than they were in the past