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WOLF - thoughts on this please - this is where the Democratic Party is heading with no chance of a middle of the road candidate having a chance - we are headed toward all out social warfare IMO
De Blasio pitches plan to seize private property of problem landlords, opponents cry ‘communism’
https://www.foxnews.com/politi…s-opponents-cry-communism
I’d spend the rest of my life keeping him tied up in court if any politician tried to pull something like this on me!! This is really scary stuff!! Lots of the stuff we banter about is really insignificant - this is a threat to the American way of life.
I think the housing seizure as explained isn't much different than how other cities deal with property owners that let their property become a health hazard to occupants and the city. Usually though, cities would evict the tenants and sell the property to somebody with a gaurantee they will restore the building. Here it sounds like the city would take responsibility for restoring the building and allow the tenants to stay. That part sounds reasonable.
The rest of the crap he is quoted as saying, makes me think he is either off the rails or more likely following Ortez's successful campaign slogans, which would then circle back to off the rails.
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so - shouldnt these people at least try - Democrats refuse to meet to end shutdown ?
Whatever happened to the idea of negotiating with offers and counter offers and working for a solution?
Somebody should have been able to make it. I'm sure, much like us normal folk, if we get an email invite for a lunch meeting from somebody we don't like 18-12 hours before said lunchtime. Many probably already had lunch plans. Some probably went around asking their friends, "Did you get a lunch invite from the white house? What's it about? Are you going?" And probably got the answered, "Yes, I recieved an invite. Don't know what it's about. No, I'm not going". Us normal folk would say no also if we didn't like the host, didn't know what the purpose was and none of are friends were going.
If Trump really wanted Dems to show up and not just want to set them up to look bad, he would give them a 48 hour notice and describe the intent of the meeting. Sure, one could argue that the intent is obvious. To that I would only ask if they know who the president is. At this point, Trump would most likely have to bait Dems with a true or false willingness to compromise on the wall if he wants them to show up.
Either side stating, "Let's get together to discuss what we can do to open the government", while knowing they themselves won't budge an inch on "no wall funding", "$5.8B or we stay closed" is being insincere to the other party and all of us.
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Ultimately the shutdown is entirely on Trump's shoulders. He is to blame. Everybody except Trump is willing to open the government today. Trump is the only one asking for anything other than opening the government. Trump is the only one that can approve the opening of the government, because the Republican controlled Senate won't vote on anything Trump opposes(I learned today that if the house and Senate approve a bill, the government will open, with or without Trump).
Now The US Coastgaurd is not getting paychecks. The, "greatest negotiator" with "the best brain" needs to think up a better tactic than holding America's best hostage.
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Ultimately the shutdown is entirely on Trump's shoulders. He is to blame. Everybody except Trump is willing to open the government today. Trump is the only one asking for anything other than opening the government. Trump is the only one that can approve the opening of the government, because the Republican controlled Senate won't vote on anything Trump opposes(I learned today that if the house and Senate approve a bill, the government will open, with or without Trump).
Now The US Coastgaurd is not getting paychecks. The, "greatest negotiator" with "the best brain" needs to think up a better tactic than holding America's best hostage.
Do you really think the Dems will “negotiate” on border barriers if Trumo caves and opens the government?? It will just be a Trump loss they can use in 2020. I think it’s going to eventually show how fat the government is and how much is not really needed. BTW - how is this different from a Union strike - the leaders don’t suffer - the employees do - same thing here. Trump AND Dems, neither one, can put politics aside for the good of the people to negotiate their own opinions.
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Ultimately the shutdown is entirely on Trump's shoulders. He is to blame. Everybody except Trump is willing to open the government today. Trump is the only one asking for anything other than opening the government. Trump is the only one that can approve the opening of the government, because the Republican controlled Senate won't vote on anything Trump opposes(I learned today that if the house and Senate approve a bill, the government will open, with or without Trump).
Now The US Coastgaurd is not getting paychecks. The, "greatest negotiator" with "the best brain" needs to think up a better tactic than holding America's best hostage.
Seriously? - - they are only willing to open the government today if Trump will agree to sign an incomplete budget
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Seriously? - - they are only willing to open the government today if Trump will agree to sign an incomplete budget
Seriously. Not having the wall funded makes it incomplete? If Pelosi and Schumer throw matching Ferrari's on it and Trump refuses to approve it, would it be considered an incomplete budget? The Wall is not necessary to run the government. Every government agency can ask for more funding outside of the budget. DHS should go that route.
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Seriously. Not having the wall funded makes it incomplete? If Pelosi and Schumer throw matching Ferrari's on it and Trump refuses to approve it, would it be considered an incomplete budget? The Wall is not necessary to run the government. Every government agency can ask for more funding outside of the budget. DHS should go that route.
yes a bill that does not deal with all of the issues at hand is incomplete, especially if what is being left out can not or will not be addressed in a separate bill. Mrs Pelosi flat out told Mr. Trump in their last meeting that if he signs a budget bill now without the wall she absolutely will not consider it in another bill later
If Pelosi had simply said she would consider the wall later Trump was ready to move ahead on a bill without the wall, - - - so yea - incomplete
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yes a bill that does not deal with all of the issues at hand is incomplete, especially if what is being left out can not or will not be addressed in a separate bill. Mrs Pelosi flat out told Mr. Trump in their last meeting that if he signs a budget bill now without the wall she absolutely will not consider it in another bill later
If Pelosi had simply said she would consider the wall later Trump was ready to move ahead on a bill without the wall, - - - so yea - incomplete
Oh, so you want them to lie so you can call them out?
Remember your, "yes a bill that does not deal with all of the issues at hand is incomplete". There will never and has never been a situation where you will feel or felt different.
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Oh, so you want them to lie so you can call them out?
Remember your, "yes a bill that does not deal with all of the issues at hand is incomplete". There will never and has never been a situation where you will feel or felt different.
Personally when a person runs for president on a set of promises and wins I think it is proper for that person to fight to keep those promises - in fact I think that person owes it to the people who elected them to do everything in their power to keep those promises.
do you think presidents should just cave on keeping the promises they made that got them elected after they have won the election?
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Washington Post denies this is their paper - now we have fake news reporting on fake news reporters - where will it end???
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Personally when a person runs for president on a set of promises and wins I think it is proper for that person to fight to keep those promises - in fact I think that person owes it to the people who elected them to do everything in their power to keep those promises.
do you think presidents should just cave on keeping the promises they made that got them elected after they have won the election?
Did Bush Jr. (Who I voted for) keep all his? No. Am I upset about it? No. Did Obama(who I voted for) keep all his? No. Am I upset about it? No. Will Trump keep all his? No. Will I be upset about it? No. Presidents come and go, promises on the campaign trail are largely big pipe dreams (think Bernie Sanders). Do they all try, yes. Are they all met with resistance from the other side? Yes. Do most make compromises where they can? Yes.
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WOLF - you are correct - Presidents come and go. However, if you look back on all the debate on this forum prior to the 2016 election I said the real thing at stake was the Supreme Court. If Hillary had won we would have had another liberal on the court with Ginsberg retiring for another. If Trump doesn’t get anything done he put a constitutionalist on the high court - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!!
Also, if you go back you will see me saying I don't care as much about the Supreme Court as I agree with positions both sides take and it always ebbs and flows.
You need to address that last post to people like Edward Neal that MUST have EVERYTHING at any cost.
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Did Bush Jr. (Who I voted for) keep all his? No. Am I upset about it? No. Did Obama(who I voted for) keep all his? No. Am I upset about it? No. Will Trump keep all his? No. Will I be upset about it? No. Presidents come and go, promises on the campaign trail are larger big pipe dreams (think Bernie Sanders). Do they all try, yes. Are that all met with resistance from the other side? Yes. Do most make compromises where they can? Yes.
You are correct - Presidents almost never keep all of their promises, But hey at least they should try - - and at this point thats all Trump is doing, trying. personally I hope he keeps trying I didnt vote for him but I still think that border security is a promise worth keeping
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You are correct - Presidents almost never keep all of their promises, But hey at least they should try - - and at this point thats all Trump is doing, trying. personally I hope he keeps trying I didnt vote for him but I still think that border security is a promise worth keeping
I'm surprised genius, negotiator boy hasn't realized from the onset and based on the Dems willingness to fund ,"$1.8B for border security", that if he would have year over year(4year term) requested $2.15B for undefined "border security", he would have probably gotten it, funded his wall and got the original $1.8B to boot.
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well if your not happy with Trump you can always vote for a Democrat named Castro in 2020
Presidential candidate Julian Castro - won't pardon Trump if he wins
Heck it seems like there will be a bunch of Democrat options, but hey - if were going to go socialist we might as well do it with a Castro
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Washington Post denies this is their paper - now we have fake news reporting on fake news reporters - where will it end???
Dated 1 May 2019. Could somebody from the future be passing them out? Ooooooooo.
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Oh crap. My stocks went up again!
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Oh crap. My stocks went up again!
better be careful - Maxine Waters is now the chairwoman of the house financial services committee and she is being joined by Ocasio-Cortez
Those two are some pretty crazy far left nut jobs - God only knows what they might do or how Wall Street is going to react
