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  • I pretty much can’t contribute in the other thread - I’ll just keep my big mouth over here with you !!

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  • Before anyone tries to say what the Republicans want to do in the Senate is unfair lets look at the disparity in the way President Nixon and President Clinton were treated during their impeachment inquiries in the House as opposed to President Trump,


    The Nixon and Clinton lawyers were allowed to participate every single day from the beginning to the end of the House impeachment inquiry, They were allowed to review evidence, suggest evidence, call witnesses and cross-examine witnesses.


    By comparison during the 78-day impeachment inquiry into President Trump -- his lawyers were forbidden from participating for the first 71 of those days, In addition, they were were not allowed to call witnesses or cross-examine witnesses or to be there for the presentation or review of evidence.


    Considering this I don't believe the House's Impeachment of Trump should have ever been allowed to make it to the Senate and to cry that the Senate is not not allowing a "fair" trial is downright laughable


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  • Why in the world would someone in charge of this relief provided by the US under the Trump administration withhold supplies so desperately needed by their own people?


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/…ars-after-hurricane-maria

    because they are dishonest crooks either that or they wanted to make the Trump administration look bad by making it appear as if not enough was done

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  • because they are dishonest crooks either that or they wanted to make the Trump administration look bad by making it appear as if not enough was done

    My thoughts exactly. Note this aid occurred back in 2017 when he first took office. Ironic as he is in the process of impeachment for supposedly withholding aid?

  • Why in the world would someone in charge of this relief provided by the US under the Trump administration withhold supplies so desperately needed by their own people?


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/…ars-after-hurricane-maria


    "Today [July 10,2019], six more people were indicted under new federal charges, including two government officials: Julia Keleher, who served as Puerto Rico’s education secretary until April; and Ángela Ávila-Marrero, who was the executive director of the Puerto Rico Health Insurance Administration until late June. They are variously charged with wire fraud, money laundering and conspiracy, according to the 32-count indictment."


    https://theconservativetreehou…aundering-and-conspiracy/

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    Any Questions?…


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  • Wow, thanks for the info!

  • I am addicted - no matter how this goes it is definitely history in the making. The legal aspects of this case fascinate me to no end. If you try to look past all the politics involved and understand the different interpretations of the Constitution it is spellbinding. It probably bores most folks into a coma but for me it is the best television programming going 😂😂

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  • Bill, if Trump is not found guilty by the Senate, is he still impeached. Wouldn’t that like being indicted but not convicted

    Impeached by definition is pretty much the indictment part - - including Trump three Presidents have been "impeached" Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and now Donald Trump - - neither Johnson or Clinton were ultimately removed from office


    Nixon probably would have been removed, but he resigned before the House formally impeached him so technically he was never impeached


    up to now no sitting President has been impeached by the House and then removed from office by the Senate

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  • I am done stating my beliefs and/or my arguments on the issue of impeachment in either this thread or the other one that was started on this subject. I feel it serves no purpose to do so and only serves to divide friends.


    Having said this I do want to share this bit of information on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson - Impeachment has been such a rare thing in our history and as such I suspect most of us know very little about the first impeachment of a President in our history.


    Impeachment history - Andrew Johnson

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  • I am done stating my beliefs and/or my arguments on the issue of impeachment in either this thread or the other one that was started on this subject. I feel it serves no purpose to do so and only serves to divide friends.


    Having said this I do want to share this bit of information on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson - Impeachment has been such a rare thing in our history and as such I suspect most of us know very little about the first impeachment of a President in our history.


    Impeachment history - Andrew Johnson

    I agree with you and the only thing it is doing is dividing the country more. BUT THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE AFTER. I also am done with both threads on this subject.

  • Edward Neal - I agree with you 100% if you believed Trump was innocent in December - nothing in this trial is going to change your mind - same goes if you thought he was guilty.I’m sure there will be another huge governmental catastrophe that we can debate - sadly probably sooner than later !!

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