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  • I don’t think the good hero captain will get a presidential pardon....I do think that his commanding officers and this guy....Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly.....are going to have some ‘splaining to do...in front of the president.....


    My prediction....Captain keeps his rank....gets his pension and gets to sail a desk...or quietly slips away....


    acting navy guy ...might not get the academy award...for his acting...

    The commanding officers could get an ass chewing....and the entire incident gets swept under the rug ....after a review of the entire situation...


    but guaranteed Trump is absolutely going to find out everything about the entire incident.....
    the navy has been totally embarrassed by this fluster cluck. And I’m guessing unless something seriously was mishandled they will want this to go away really fast...CYA is seriously in play...from all angles ...

  • I don’t think the good hero captain will get a presidential pardon....I do think that his commanding officers and this guy....Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly.....are going to have some ‘splaining to do...in front of the president.....


    My prediction....Captain keeps his rank....gets his pension and gets to sail a desk...or quietly slips away....


    acting navy guy ...might not get the academy award...for his acting...

    The commanding officers could get an ass chewing....and the entire incident gets swept under the rug ....after a review of the entire situation...


    but guaranteed Trump is absolutely going to find out everything about the entire incident.....
    the navy has been totally embarrassed by this fluster cluck. And I’m guessing unless something seriously was mishandled they will want this to go away really fast...CYA is seriously in play...from all angles ...

    Unless something has changed he lost his ship, no demotion or discipline. Same pay minus sea pay as he is no longer at sea.

  • Quick comparison: "Thomas B. Modly is an American businessman and government official who has served as Acting United States Secretary of the Navy since November 24, 2019. He served on active duty in the United States Navy as a helicopter pilot and spent seven years as a U.S. Navy officer." Compare this to: "Brett Elliott Crozier is an American naval captain (U.S. rank O-6) in the United States Navy. He entered active service in 1992. He made multiple deployments in support of U.S. 3rd, 5th, and 7th Fleet operations, numerous exercises and Operations Southern Watch and OIF. A partial list of his earned honors, awards, and decorations: Naval Aviator Badge, Legion of Merit w/ 1 gold service star, Defense Meritorious Service Medal w/ 1 silver oak leaf cluster, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal w/ 2 gold service stars, Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal w/ 1 gold service star, Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation, Navy E Ribbon w/ 2 Battle E devices, National Defense Service Medal w/ 1 service star, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal w/ 1 service star, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Navy Sea Service Deployment, Ribbon w/ 3 service stars, Navy & Marine Corps Overseas Service Ribbon, Command at Sea insignia." Which one of these two do you trust?


    captain has more than a boy scout merit badge

  • Quick comparison: "Thomas B. Modly is an American businessman and government official who has served as Acting United States Secretary of the Navy since November 24, 2019. He served on active duty in the United States Navy as a helicopter pilot and spent seven years as a U.S. Navy officer." Compare this to: "Brett Elliott Crozier is an American naval captain (U.S. rank O-6) in the United States Navy. He entered active service in 1992. He made multiple deployments in support of U.S. 3rd, 5th, and 7th Fleet operations, numerous exercises and Operations Southern Watch and OIF. A partial list of his earned honors, awards, and decorations: Naval Aviator Badge, Legion of Merit w/ 1 gold service star, Defense Meritorious Service Medal w/ 1 silver oak leaf cluster, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal w/ 2 gold service stars, Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal w/ 1 gold service star, Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation, Navy E Ribbon w/ 2 Battle E devices, National Defense Service Medal w/ 1 service star, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal w/ 1 service star, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Navy Sea Service Deployment, Ribbon w/ 3 service stars, Navy & Marine Corps Overseas Service Ribbon, Command at Sea insignia." Which one of these two do you trust?


    captain has more than a boy scout merit badge

    Bigdog Just wondering which branch if the military did you serve in?

  • one thing I found interesting - - Secretary of Navy goes on a Ship and uses unprofessional language to admonish the ex Captain for doing something he should have known would go public when it shouldn't - - So shouldn't the Secretary of the Navy have known that his admonishment and off color language would also go public when he probably didnt want it to???


    it seems hypocritical to get upset about someone letting something go public when you are doing the exact same thing :/

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  • one thing I found interesting - - Secretary of Navy goes on a Ship and uses unprofessional language to admonish the ex Captain for doing something he should have known would go public when it shouldn't - - So shouldn't the Secretary of the Navy have known that his admonishment and off color language would also go public when he probably didnt want it to???


    it seems hypocritical to get upset about someone letting something go public when you are doing the exact same thing :/

    Or it's an example of how loose the crew is when it comes to information. The crew following the Captains example. What was said in the ship wasn't passed outside the ship by him.

    Bad language on a ship full of sailors what is this world coming to?

  • Well - - it would seem the Acting Secretary of the Navy just offered his resignation

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  • trump is going to make the decisions about the captain and the “acting” naval secretary....wait for it....this isn’t over by a long shot....If you don’t like trump...you don’t know trump...

    Bigdog Just wondering which branch if the military did you serve in?

    Art Institute of PGH...
    my number was 126....they stopped inducting at 124....

    For the record I didn’t write the Captains medal count info.

    Well - - it would seem the Acting Secretary of the Navy just offered his resignation

    yep....He proved he’s the bigger idiot....

    My opinion is....public sentiment is going to be with the hero captain...all the way.

    Navy head....gone sooner than later...

  • With all this home schooling. I wonder how long it will be that the parents realize that it was not the teachers fault that their idiot kid is causing the problem.

    I just talked to a parent and she’s not happy with the way that’s going....read this....answer some questions.. answer a few more questions....see ya tomorrow...


    there needs to be a major overhaul of the curriculum ...start teaching the real history...not a sanitized version with all the virtues of liberals, socialists and commies...


    Just in the acting Navy secretary just resigned......

  • Thank you Bigdog for the info it helps me to put your opinions on military matters in perspective. Approaching an issue without experience creates a different perspective. I can now see your only real interest in the ex captain of the Roosevelt is to bash Trump. I get it you hate Trump as you have indicated. The concept of chain of command is for you only a concept not a part of your experience. OPSEC and chain of command are more than a concept to me so our opinions do not match. You can pick your heroes and I'll pick mine, a Captain that fails his mission is not a hero to me. He allowed his ship be compromised and announced it to the world, he needed to be removed and was. The now the ex acting SecNav removed the weak link and them stepped away. That's best case for Trump, the bad man is gone and Trump didn't need to do it. Now a new captain can be assigned without the ex SecNav tainting the selection.

    Correction: WOLF has pointed out that you worship Trump not hate him, I stand corrected. It appears your hatred is reserved for Modly.

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  • cant we all just get along?

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  • When I was much much younger one of our local TV stations would sign off at the end of their day every night at 1:00 am and before they went off the air they would show a beautiful video of images from across the country that was accompanied by that Ray Charles version of America - - - always loved it <3


    These days it sometimes feels as if people have forgotten just how lucky we are to be able live in this most amazing place and call it our home

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  • Thank you Bigdog for the info it helps me to put your opinions on military matters in perspective. Approaching an issue without experience creates a different perspective. I can now see your only real interest in the ex captain of the Roosevelt is to bash Trump. I get it you hate Trump as you have indicated. The concept of chain of command is for you only a concept not a part of your experience. OPSEC and chain of command are more than a concept to me so our opinions do not match. You can pick your heroes and I'll pick mine, a Captain that fails his mission is not a hero to me. He allowed his ship be compromised and announced it to the world, he needed to be removed and was. The now the ex acting SecNav removed the weak link and them stepped away. That's best case for Trump, the bad man is gone and Trump didn't need to do it. Now a new captain can be assigned without the ex SecNav tainting the selection.

    You have some corrections to make. You clearly don't pay much attention when Bigdog comments. He is a Trump supporter through and through. When comparing posts from him to posts from you that are in regards to Trump, smart money would be on him getting on his knees to service Trump before you.:P


    Kissing his ass, not blowing him, well, or, never mind.:00008356: