Rant on a Vendor

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    • Ebay doesn’t have a problem rating venders .....they get warnings don’t they ...

      Maybe a section where “WE” (actual customers) can rate venders for performance... that takes it off you.... and puts it on them...if their rating drops below a set number...they drop off the list....

      A good business should have good business practices...and should be worried about their reputation...and product quality.

      I also understand that in today’s Business Climate competition for a small slice of money pie is fierce. Advertising is expensive... newspapers are disappearing...radio and tv ads are astronomical. Leading to underestimated business costs. Brick and mortar stores are dropping like flies. Making it harder for smaller companies to absorb and survive faulty product returns or exchanges.

      The forum has a reputation to maintain also....It might look like you support the questionable vender..for whatever reason...and you are ok with their lack of problem solving. That could lead to people leaving the forum...
    • could always create an open poll for each vendor doing a star raring system where positive or negative comments could be maintained free from thread details - this could apply to particpating and non-participating vendors and wouldn't require administrators to do more work
    • LargeCar wrote:

      Ok now that I have your attention. This is going to be one of those rare rant on a vendor, a good one. Let me tell you about my problem and how it got fixed. Every Time I got up in the rpm and went for the shift as soon as I released the throttle I got a backfire. Annoying to say the least, even embarrassing at times. Wife hated it I hated it. The culprit here is simple, oxygenated air getting into the exhaust stream where there is still enough hot gases to cause ignition. The problem is finding the leak and resolving the issue. At this point I should tell you that there is no stock exhaust on the slingshot at all. I removed the entire system and sealed everything, real good, as I examined every piece as best I could upon re-assembly, I even milled the header to head flange .045 to make it flat. I purchased 1320's composite gasket set and installed it. A copper base hi temp sealer was used upon all assembly steps on every place there was a joint of any kind. Go for a test and bang, back to the shop. Remove the header and replace with stock cast iron manifold, seal good as well. Go for a test drive and bang, back to the shop. Now the 1320 header is eliminated as the leaking piece, so it has to be after the header somewhere in the aftermarket exhaust. Here comes the vender, @Jeff Welter. He confirms my suspicion of the air leak, has me take some pictures of the first pipe (the first after the header that has the muffler in it, and the second pipe in the system. After a few emails and remembering that mine was possible the first 2017 to wear the dual exhaust Jeff tells me he will send out a new primary and secondary pipe. He does just that, plus a new crush ring and the new tail pipe support piece. After getting over some PTSD crap I finally get the chance to do the install. On the test drive I wind it up a little and shift and no backfire, so then i wind it up to red line (maybe a bit past) and shift, still no backfire. Wife and I are happy that we can ride without all the backfiring and causing us to be nervous and others to get pissed off at us. So far I am just in awe of the service after sale that we have gotten from Jeff and Angie. If anybody reading this is thinking of getting after market exhaust I would strongly suggest you get your exhaust from @Jeff Welter. If you think it may be to expensive think about the quality of the exhaust it self and the service after the sale that you will get from these fine people and an outstanding company/vendor.

      Off the soap box, would be out riding but Oklahoma is getting hammered by storms, again.


      LargeCar
      Ranting on a vendor like that... geez. You should be taken out back, your shirt ripped off and beaten with a wet noodle. Twenty lashes to you by a hot looking babe in a bikini.
    • Ross wrote:

      could always create an open poll for each vendor doing a star raring system where positive or negative comments could be maintained free from thread details - this could apply to particpating and non-participating vendors and wouldn't require administrators to do more work
      I do think that any system where forum members are allowed to rate vendors should be limited to members who have an established presence here on the forum so that we dont have people joining the forum just so they can have an impact on a vendors ratings.
      Cage Free - 2016 Pearl Red SL
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    • I would add that maybe before someone could post a rating, they must provide an invoice number or something that proves that they are a real customer and not one from a competitor trying to trash the reputation of a vendor
      If your carpet has to match the drapes,
      shouldn't your trailer match your Slingshot?
    • I would think if a sticky thread as the first thing someone sees when they click on the vendors section with a rating and comment section for each vendor would be great. It would have to be controlled as to comments and not turned into a discussion thread. And as stated the person leaving the comment should have to be a member in standing, possibly approved similar to the nsfw section
    • War Hoop wrote:

      LargeCar wrote:

      Ok now that I have your attention. This is going to be one of those rare rant on a vendor, a good one. Let me tell you about my problem and how it got fixed. Every Time I got up in the rpm and went for the shift as soon as I released the throttle I got a backfire. Annoying to say the least, even embarrassing at times. Wife hated it I hated it. The culprit here is simple, oxygenated air getting into the exhaust stream where there is still enough hot gases to cause ignition. The problem is finding the leak and resolving the issue. At this point I should tell you that there is no stock exhaust on the slingshot at all. I removed the entire system and sealed everything, real good, as I examined every piece as best I could upon re-assembly, I even milled the header to head flange .045 to make it flat. I purchased 1320's composite gasket set and installed it. A copper base hi temp sealer was used upon all assembly steps on every place there was a joint of any kind. Go for a test and bang, back to the shop. Remove the header and replace with stock cast iron manifold, seal good as well. Go for a test drive and bang, back to the shop. Now the 1320 header is eliminated as the leaking piece, so it has to be after the header somewhere in the aftermarket exhaust. Here comes the vender, @Jeff Welter. He confirms my suspicion of the air leak, has me take some pictures of the first pipe (the first after the header that has the muffler in it, and the second pipe in the system. After a few emails and remembering that mine was possible the first 2017 to wear the dual exhaust Jeff tells me he will send out a new primary and secondary pipe. He does just that, plus a new crush ring and the new tail pipe support piece. After getting over some PTSD crap I finally get the chance to do the install. On the test drive I wind it up a little and shift and no backfire, so then i wind it up to red line (maybe a bit past) and shift, still no backfire. Wife and I are happy that we can ride without all the backfiring and causing us to be nervous and others to get pissed off at us. So far I am just in awe of the service after sale that we have gotten from Jeff and Angie. If anybody reading this is thinking of getting after market exhaust I would strongly suggest you get your exhaust from @Jeff Welter. If you think it may be to expensive think about the quality of the exhaust it self and the service after the sale that you will get from these fine people and an outstanding company/vendor.

      Off the soap box, would be out riding but Oklahoma is getting hammered by storms, again.


      LargeCar
      Ranting on a vendor like that... geez. You should be taken out back, your shirt ripped off and beaten with a wet noodle. Twenty lashes to you by a hot looking babe in a bikini.
      @War Hoop I WAS RANTING >>>>I WAS RANTING....SHE SHOULD PUNISH ME TOO!!!!!

      SSreaper
      :BLACKSS: 2016 SL LE BLACK PEARL :HEADERSS: :COLDAIRSS: :COILOVERSS:
    • Many forums/sites require a poster to have made so many posts before joining certain discussions...

      Viewing the vendor scoring should be for forum members that have made “X” amount of posts, put in so much time and be subjected to disiplinary actions for trash talking or lying about a vender. And totally banned if they are a vendor trying to backstab another vendor.

      There is nothing wrong with verifying a poster as a customer of any company they wish to comment on. That would be smart and eliminate some legal ramifications...and forum problems. This purchase verification should probably be done by an administrator in private to protect forum participants private information... a poster could then be given special access to post in the vendor scoring thread.. should probably be granted one time for every vendor problem..on a incident basis. Not just open to willy nelly rantings. If you can prove you have a legit ant bitch.

      There should probably be a way to change your score if the vendor has made everything right....a time period should also be implemented.... can’t complain about a vendor within “X” amount of days or weeks....depending on the issue as to whether the vendor has totally ignored your request or time Is needed to either fix, repair, replace or reorder a new part.
      Ex. My brother in law waited 6 months for the parts for his dodge colt to come from Japan.


      Comments should be curtious and to the point...state your grievance, give your rating and the amount of attempts made to contact the vender to rectify the problem... and if the product was faulty, manufacturing defect or just a piece of junk.

      A vender rating system to assess their community standing. Fall below the require score and for the good of the forum members...the vender is dropped. Or at least forum participants should be warned about offending venders.
    • rabtech wrote:

      @Ghost is correct about mine... I can literally sneak up behind someone in a parking lot and clip their shoes off with my front bumper.

      Its actually quieter than a stock muffler. But once i lay into the gas and I reach 7psi it opens up my bypass and it turns into a straight pipe. And it is LOUD!
      @Summer Breezes Welter is real quit now also, since he made some changes/MODS. Riding to the Beach behind him yesterday and I can not even hear his exhaust now. One HELL of a difference from Welter Outsider set-up.
    • I, too, like the idea of forum member ratings feedback for each vendor. At a minimum, a simple Yes or No, I'd purchase from them again. As far as any vendor logging on and bad-mouthing a competitor, I wouldn't really worry about it as long as any vendor knows such unethical behavior will result in a ban from the forum.

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