Yep @Ross, no motorcycle license required but still no autocycle classification. And we don’t have to wear helmets anyway when over 18 so not really sure what that classification would change.
It would give DMV and insurance a legal way to charge more............
So far the only thing that changed when Oregon went to autocycle was that a motorcycle endorsement is no longer required, insurance actually dropped a little........
Bill
So far the only thing that changed when Oregon went to autocycle was that a motorcycle endorsement is no longer required, insurance actually dropped a little........
Bill
give it time, I bet it just hasn't clicked yet for the beancounters.
but standard drivers license to operate?
Freedom to ride in arkansas as state reclassifies license requirements for three-wheeled vehicle | Polaris Slingshot
@Ross not sure where Polaris is getting there info from. Maybe there trying to get more non motorcycle people to buy them, but nothing has came down the pipe line as to have it reclassified as an auto cycle. You still need a motorcycle endorsement to drive a slingshot.
@Ross I agree, but I it looks like the VIN numbers are simply the specs for the individual vehicles and not government weight allowances. Don’t want to restart an old weight argument and I could be wrong but I didn’t think anyone had found any motorcycle max weight specs/allowances. I have searched the USDOT site and haven’t been able to find any limits on motorcycle size or weights. There are lots of specs and regs showing how to calculate a vehicles limits based on its engineering specs but I can’t find anything to specify what would be the maximum weight for a motorcycle. The Gunbus was supposed to be a street legal motorcycle in Germany and it weighed 1433 lbs on two wheels.
Does this help?
Copied from another thread: "start at about post 40 at Motorcycle classification weight "
kev wrote:
Well you asked for it so here it is , make sure you study it all ! The
empty weight of any motorcycle is not the limiting factor as far as
regulations and certifications, its the GVWR . if you check your
compliance label you will see Polaris has a published GVWR of 2199 lbs .
This is because the maximum motorcycle gross weight for certifying they
are in compliance with the F.M.V.S.S. (federal motor vehicle safety
standards) and their appropriate motorcycle manufacturer sections is
2200 lbs or in Canada 1,000 kgs. and for the purpose of calculating GVWR
manufacturers have to use a standardized person weight , this also
includes aircraft manufacturers , and all manufacturers of anything
under the Department Of Transportation. That magic standard number is
175 lbs per person (or seat) . they must also include an allowance for
fuel and luggage.
So when you work the equation backwards, Polaris,s certifies they
don't exceed the 2200 lb maximum by carrying two passengers at the
required standard of 175 = 350 lbs , 60 LBS for fuel and 40 lbs for
luggage, (this can be actual luggage or options or extra belly fat
exceeding 175 lbs) which leaves an empty weight (curb weight) of 1750
lbs. So there you have the reason Polaris will always be limited to
1750 lbs curb weight. For the purpose of certifying compliance they
only have to use the curb weight of their standard models , and standard
weight persons, and an allowance for luggage or overweight , options or
persons. it would be impossible for any manufacturer to know how many
options or bellyfat lbs an operator may operate at , so therefore they
cover Thine ASS, with written disclaimers on all their accessories pages
that it is the operators responsibility to operate in accordance with
the GVWR
Resources, this is where it gets mind boggling, keep in mind it is not
just the FMVSS there are also any number of pieces of legislation or
Acts as well as their appropriate, constantly evloving Regulations, I
will link and list the most applicable here including f.M.V.S.S.But the
definition of motorcycle in F.M.V.S.S.is currently evolving with applied
for regs that aim to exclude three wheel vehicles like the Elio and
others currently being imported form overseas because they have , doors,
hinges, and operating side windows, and fully enclosed. meaning they
claim those are too much a car to be considered an auto cycle. I will
link that proposed Reg.
I will aslso quote and link an agreement between Japen ,U.S.A. and
CANADA AND OTHERS to all use the same standards as your F.M.V.S.S. I
will link CANADAS AND YOU WILL SEE THEY ARE THE IDENTICAL STANDARDS.
These countries all in agreement to manufacture within the same
F.M.V.S.S. So are all honoured in each others countries. that's why
Slingshots built in Alabama can be sold in Canada without question and
Spyders BUILT IN Canada can be sold in U.S.A without question and a
whole slew of Japaneese motorcycles .
So since the U.S. currently changing definition of motorcycle and
autocycle is still evolving I WILL LINK THE ALREADY spelled OUT AND
LINKED, MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY ACT, OF THE MUCH MORE ADVANCED COUNTRY
KNOWN AS CANADA !! just joking ! RELAX ! It clearly defines already the
motorcycle tricycle (spyders) and auto cycle , known to us as a three
wheel motorcycle , as both having a clearly spelled out GVWR of 1000 kgs
(2200 lbs) and keep in mind Since Canada is party to the F.M.V.S.S.
agreement these GVWR limits are in accordance with the same F.M.V.S.S.
the U.S. applies, Therefore all CANADIAN MANUFACTURERS AND POLARIS ARE
ALREADY CERTIFYING AND MAUFACTURING TO THIS G.V.W.R. max of 2200 lbs as
we already know how to read and properly publish them (just joking again
but you get the point) .
RESOURCES
link to federal register to view any sections of F.M.V.S.S. (hard to navigate)
Federal Register
::
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; Motorcycle Brake Systems; Motorcycle Controls and Displays
LINKto U.S. F.M.V.S.S.that pertain to motorcycle manufacturing
mcpkg002.pdf
site for regulation , applying to change U.S.MOTORCYLE DEF TO EXCLUDE ELIO TYP THREE WHEELERS
View Rule
Canadas, vehicle safety act defining motor tricycles, (spyders) AS HAVING 1000 KG GVWR
Also defining our autocyles category, as three wheel vehicle,(SLINGSHOTS) AS HAVING 1000 KG GVWR
Canadas C.M.V.S.S. this Canadian chart shows all the motorcycle
standards from motorcycle manufacturing .F.M.V.S.S.. are identical to
the CANADIAN MOTORCYCLE ONES and if you study the Canadian chart you
will see which ones apply to motortricycles (spyders) and which ones
apply to three wheel vehicles (slingshots) your autocycles.
Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations
Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations
C.R.C., c. 1038
MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY ACT
Regulations Respecting Safety for Motor Vehicles and Motor Vehicle Components
Short Title
1 These Regulations may be cited as the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations.
three-wheeled vehicle means a vehicle, other than a competition
vehicle, an antique reproduction vehicle, a motorcycle, a restricted-use
motorcycle, a trailer or a vehicle imported temporarily for special
purposes, that
[*]motor tricycle means a motorcycle, other than an antique reproduction vehicle, that
UHHHHHHHH.....YEAH! WHAT HE SAID! 
SSREPER
2019's will get introduced to the dealers on August 1st via internet video 
. If there are any major changes the dealers won't know much more than their told via the 'net until they show up at the dealerships. If it's just a BNG (bold new graphics) situation then it won't be a big deal.
Well it's August 1st... saw a post on Instagram from Polaris... "Introducing the 2019 Slingshot family", but it's only a far away picture of a white one...
Ok actually I saw three pictures with the same heading, a white one, one that looks like an orange madness SLR, a teal looking one, and a black pearl one with white accents.
Nothing new here, move along...
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I went to their website this morning and looked at the SLR. I hit the "build your own" tab and it brought to a section that introduced the all new 2018 Slingshot. I guess the website is a bit behind the new model release. But I did find a $1,000 coupon for your trade-in. I would have thought mine was worth a lot more than that!! lol (I know, it's an ADDITIONAL $1,000, but I had to say that)
I went to their website this morning and looked at the SLR. I hit the "build your own" tab and it brought to a section that introduced the all new 2018 Slingshot. I guess the website is a bit behind the new model release. But I did find a $1,000 coupon for your trade-in. I would have thought mine was worth a lot more than that!! lol (I know, it's an ADDITIONAL $1,000, but I had to say that)
intro video ...
Ok anybody seen the new colors in person?
I was at the dealership this week and when I walked in I thought they had a black base model but on closer inspection it's purple. It probably looks much different in the sun but
Under showroom lights you have to look twice to know its purple. On the other hand the
Green one is REALLY green. Still waiting to see the red SLR .
intro video ...
Did you ever notice most new vehicle commercials are begging you to drive irresponsibly like a maniac...then the fine print disclaimer...professional driver on a closed course.....only one problem...they are always on public roads and highways...speeding, driving double, doing donuts and burn outs, drag racing and everything but the speed limit. Giving young impressionable minds to many bad driving ideas...we see them as statistics on the news daily...
