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  • Your old, "they did it first" defense. Very predictable. So much so, I almost wrote a special sentence to spare you from responding @Orangeman. If I typed every one of your canned responses , I would never hear from you. I have to keep you engaged somehow. love-squared

    I have to agree the “did it first” thing is the old hat. Republicans And Democrats will lie, cheat, steal, coerce, fraud, trick, hoax, game, fake, prevaricate, palter, be mendacious, fib, equivocate, perjure, pilfer, purloin, snitch, murder(Just Hillary I am aware of) or anything else imaginable if it benefits themselves first and party second. :cursing:


    PS. PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I LEFT OUT ANY NEGATIVE ADJECTIVES - I DID MY BEST :00008172:

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  • precedent
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    noun

    • Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an authoritative rule or pattern in future similar oranalogous cases.
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    Words mean things ....... angel-squared


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  • I might not be right but I can sure sound like it

  • Whats really funny is that the (R) by his name was and is a joke - looking at his history he has been anything but an (R). If by some off chance Trump were to be removed from office anyone who is in line to replace him will be much further to the right that Trump, especially on social issues.


    Only reason why there was ever an (R) by his name is because was because he knew that this country is owned by the Republicrats and their 2 party lock on the system and as such the only way for him to get in was to pretend to be one of them.


    When you cut through all of the crap the thing about Trump that pisses off so many people on both sides of the isle is they know, deep down, despite the (R) that was by his name when he ran he really doesn't belong in their members only club and he cant be counted to follow their rules

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  • This is how Trump makes leaders of both parties feel

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  • I have to agree the “did it first” thing is the old hat. Republicans And Democrats will lie, cheat, steal, coerce, fraud, trick, hoax, game, fake, prevaricate, palter, be mendacious, fib, equivocate, perjure, pilfer, purloin, snitch, murder(Just Hillary I am aware of) or anything else imaginable if it benefits themselves first and party second. :cursing:
    PS. PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I LEFT OUT ANY NEGATIVE ADJECTIVES - I DID MY BEST :00008172:

    The people that they represent is the last thing that they think about.

  • California Governor Jerry Moonbeam Brown on Donald Trump The Link


    “We never had a president who was engaged in this kind of behavior,” Brown said. “I mean he’s not telling the truth; he keeps changing his mind; he’s sabotaging the world order in many respects.”


    really?


    "He's sabotaging the world order"


    like I said above - this is what both the left and the right hate about Donald Trump - - - he does not support their idea of a "World Order" - - - he doesn't conform

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  • You support an FBI investigation into the current allegations prolonging the wait for confirmation. And you are also cool with more obstruction by the Dems. I would not have guessed that.


    Words do mean things after all. :saint:


    Maybe not so well played. ;)


  • EVERY year is an election year. Some just have more offices opening up than others. Just want them to get on with the people’s business.



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  • The whole FBI investigation thing is a farse. Some basic things are needed to do an investigation and they are missing.
    When: unknown
    Where: unknown
    Who: unknown except Kavenaugh.
    Great exchange coming Monday
    Were you at an unknown location on an unknown date with unknown people Mr Kavenaugh?

  • You support an FBI investigation into the current allegations prolonging the wait for confirmation. And you are also cool with more obstruction by the Dems. I would not have guessed that

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    Please see post # 8565 ... the words there address your assumption and define the parameters by which said assumption does not apply .....


    I just don't know where this relationship is going ... it's almost like you don't even try anymore ......


    ......... angel-squared


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  • The last time politicians were takin care of the people’s business was when Eisenhower was President IMO - since then they all jockey for whatever it takes to stay in office while increasing their own power base. Not to worry - the Dems and Reps will soon be a memory - it will soon be (it already is we just don’t call it that( ..... the Socialist Party vs the Capitalistic Party

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  • LOL, that was awesome. I'm trying I swear. :love:



    I have to mention that post #8565 says nothing about further obstruction by the Dems do to the precedent the Dems set and is being sited by Republicans as precedence for their obstruction, thus repeating an endless cycle of obstruction by both sides in the name of precedence. Which I assumed by you bringing it up, you agree with. ;)

  • The one thing I love most about Trump is he drives the libtards totally batshit crazy - it’s fun to watch after suffering thru 8 years of Obama.

    We have 4 different groups we are dealing with. First we have group A - the small elite political class. The insiders of both parties. Trump drives both sides of the political class batshit crazy - like I said, he's not one of them and they have no clue how to control him - he is viewed as a threat to their power because he in constantly rocking their little apple cart and waking up the drones


    Then you have group B - the majority of voters - party followers, the drones - right or left, it makes no difference they only are for or against Trump because they are followers - they think they understand the issues but only because of what they have been told. They havent actually done any of their own research into the issues they are just to busy to bother with such things - as such they just go along with what they have always known - or follow along with what everyone around them says is the thing to do.


    Then there is group C - The small minority of voters that actually take the time to learn about the issues and educate themselves - most of these people know that neither party has a lock on what is right or what is wrong and they question everything. If they support Trump or dont support Trump it is because of real issues and not just the rhetoric they hear. Most of these people consider themselves independent and if they are registered as a Democrat or Republican it is not because they follow that party it is because being registered as such gives them voting options they might not have if they registered as an Independent or Libertarian - this of course is because in many places the two party club wont let outsiders play because if they did it would threaten their lock on political control


    And lastly we have group D - the non voters, either too lazy to take the time or so disenchanted they have given up (frankly if you are in this group you gave up any right to complain when you chose not to vote)


    What is really sad about this country right now is that group A has completely brainwashed group B into thinking that if you do not agree you must be the enemy - Group A doesn't care if you are on the right or left all they care about is that whatever side you are on you fight the other side - by doing this, by keeping people politically fighting - they keep us divided and by keeping us divided they keep their power and control and yes their wealth. They are the kings and queens the rulers of the land and all they care about is making sure it stays that way.


    I am in group C a registered Libertarian who leans toward the conservative side on many but not all economic issues and toward the liberal side on many, but not all social issues. In the last presidential election I voted for Gary Johnson - Normally I think the published political party platforms are just feel good fairy tails they want us to believe they will support so that they can keep us as their followers, but in the case of Gary Johnson I truly felt that he actually would try to govern with the Libertarian part platform as his guidance - that is why he got my vote. Here is a link to that platform - if you can find the time please read it - you might find it makes more sense than you expected - Libertarian party platform


    Anyway having not voted for Mr. Trump at this time I do support him and I support him for 2 primary reasons - Reason 1, when you get past words from both sides and the crap that comes out of his mouth we seem to be headed in a good direction economically and we seem to be securing our borders - are there other issues that are not so good - yes, of course there are, but I dont expect perfection and I accept that things take time


    And reason 2 - the most important reason I support Trump is because anyone who can piss off group A as much as he does and can make so many of the followers in group B shit there pants the way he does has to be a good for this country - - perhaps the earthquake that is Donald Trump is what this country needs to wake it up and shake it up so that the elite political class can once and for all be brought to an end and we can get back to a government that is actually by the people and for the people


    I will also add that had I lived in a swing state The reality that it was going to come down to Trump or HRC would have forced me to vote for Trump - - in my entire life I cant think of a presidential candidate nominated by either major party who cared less about the people and more about herself than Queen Hillary - as such I would have had no choice but to try to block her by voting Trump


    JMO

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  • I agree with all what you say @edwardaneal but I would like to add one more group that will be all important in the upcoming mid terms. Trump has been in office long enough now love him or hate him you know what you got. This extra group I would add is the just left of center right or left. The Democrats with their socialist agenda will push the right leaners further toward Trump and the left leaners are seeing an agenda going so far to the left they have no choice but to go toward conservativism. IMO if you voted for Hillary you ain’t gonna go Rep no matter what - same goes for Trump voters going Dem. I think, hopefully, the sane middle of the road vote will prevail - midterms are fixin to really start heating up - we shall see

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  • HOORAY for the State of Texas!!! Peter Flores just won a Senate seat flipping a Democratic held position for 139 years. I wonder if the Dems are gonna keep pushing their fake news “blue wave” :00008172: politics doesn’t suck today :D !!!

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