So your saying we would have been better off with Hillary at the wheel ???
In short... yes. We haven't even begun to see the amount of shit storm that Donald is going to F'Up. I'd settle for the status quo for 4 more years than to screw up everything due to ignorance, hatred, and fear mongering. In this case, it's the devil I knew compared to the devil I knew that could be unleashed and he continues to prove that correct on so many levels.
Love it @Bill Martin.. And now he's suing the NFL I hear... LOSER!
Yes racism is alive, but Obama blew it up and brought it to new life. Racism is what you make it and Honestly the louder they cry/ play the game, the more people are getting sick of it and becoming racist... Being honest. In my life I don't remember things being this bad, and HONESTLY IM SO SICK OF HEARING THE SAME SHIT EVERY DAY ABOUT RACISM, FEELINGS, GAYS, transgender...BLAH-Blah.....Fucked America!!! What have we come to.. The louder you talk/ cry nonsense the deeper we sink.... I've found not watching the news, turning off the NFL, AND IGNORING THE WORLD....I STAY SAIN
In short... yes. We haven't even begun to see the amount of shit storm that Donald is going to F'Up. I'd settle for the status quo for 4 more years than to screw up everything due to ignorance, hatred, and fear mongering. In this case, it's the devil I knew compared to the devil I knew that could be unleashed and he continues to prove that correct on so many levels.
Hell No, another clone of Obama, no Fing way. A lying, cheating, nasty hag @ the helm, NO WAY. IF LIBERALS AND DEMS WOULD SHUT THERE MOUTHS AND JUST NOT FIGHT EVERYTHING, MAYBE THINGS COULD GET BETTER! Imagine the click shit storm they were trying to create... Hellary, Obama, Bernie, MAlloy etc...HELL NO!
I will say yeah, Trump talks a little to much , but he says it, weather blunt or in his own manner, he says it how it is....Obama talked a talk and did Shit!
If CNN stopped talking BS and pumping people full of crap, if people could just take a step back and think , if people could accept like we had to for 8 BS years of Obama then Maybe, just maybe things could start to get better.... I'm starting to HATE PEOPLE IM so sick of crap....
Just step back and think what can you/we do to make things better...think as an individual and just try to do your part to make this "America" better....
Hell No, another clone of Obama, no Fing way. A lying, cheating, nasty hag @ the helm, NO WAY. IF LIBERALS AND DEMS WOULD SHUT THERE MOUTHS AND JUST NOT FIGHT EVERYTHING, MAYBE THINGS COULD GET BETTER! Imagine the click shit storm they were trying to create... Hellary, Obama, Bernie, MAlloy etc...HELL NO!
I will say yeah, Trump talks a little to much , but he says it, weather blunt or in his own manner, he says it how it is....Obama talked a talk and did Shit!
If CNN stopped talking BS and pumping people full of crap, if people could just take a step back and think , if people could accept like we had to for 8 BS years of Obama then Maybe, just maybe things could start to get better.... I'm starting to HATE PEOPLE IM so sick of crap....
Just step back and think what can you/we do to make things better...think as an individual and just try to do your part to make this "America" better....
Bones... I respect your take, but if you think the Republican party is any different, then you've had your head in the sand. None of the parties are any better when it comes to ethics or accomplishing crap. I'm just tired of the "holier than thou" attitude of the Republican party and I'm ashamed of them. Both parties are hypocrites, but I'm sick of listening to issues with emails while they are ALL DOING the same thing. Doesn't make it right, but WTF? Don't criticize one politician for 5-10 things while you're doing the same damn thing. It's Trump saying Obama plays to much golf or the Republican party saying Obama's a socialist as he signs executive orders and yet they do so more than all of them. They are liars and cheats every last one of them. Why isn't the president told he's got a budget to spend for travel as we all live with budgets, why can't he when he's spending my money? They (both parties) need to start living like other Americans and not living off the backs of them. I'm sorry you hate people (one of my wife's favorite sayings), but if Congress became "For the people", things would be better. I'm hoping the Republican party get's their head out of their ass end and become "For the people" instead of "For the Republican Party, By the Republican Party". Get some progress done!
None of the parties are any better when it comes to ethics or accomplishing crap. I'm just tired of the "holier than thou" attitude of the Republican party and I'm ashamed of them. Both parties are hypocrites, but I'm sick of listening to issues with emails while they are ALL DOING the same thing. Doesn't make it right, but WTF? Don't criticize one politician for 5-10 things while you're doing the same damn thing. It's Trump saying Obama plays to much golf or the Republican party saying Obama's a socialist as he signs executive orders and yet they do so more than all of them. They are liars and cheats every last one of them. Why isn't the president told he's got a budget to spend for travel as we all live with budgets, why can't he when he's spending my money? They (both parties) need to start living like other Americans and not living off the backs of them. I'm sorry you hate people (one of my wife's favorite sayings), but if Congress became "For the people", things would be better. I'm hoping the Republican party get's their head out of their ass end and become "For the people" instead of "For the Republican Party, By the Republican Party". Get some progress done!
Damn ... now that made a whole lot of sense in a general sort of way ....
I misjudged you based on your earlier posts .... for that I apologize .....
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@SaltyClownNY I cannot agree with your previous post more. However, the main point I have stressed since way before the election it was and is not the major issue. Presidents go and come. Congress is and was broken for many years now. You probably won’t agree with this as you appear to lean a little left but the main thing Trump will do and has began already is stopping the Supreme Court from having a liberal majority. The Supreme Court has way more power over your day to day life than the President and Congress. With a liberal court you could very easily see all the values of the last 200 years disappear. If you are anti capitalism, for big government, and for the social and environmental police dictating your every move - then I could see where Hellary was your man 
@Bill Martin. Sorry for the verbal puke I'm about to do, but I'm a bit like @BONES and tired of it all...
I think there is a balance to everything. I am VERY much for capitalism and hate big government. Don't like regulations. It's kind of like seat belt laws... I ware my seat belt as I believe the data behind waring one makes it a smart thing to do. But I also don't like to be told you must ware one. If people want to not ware one... so be it. I call that natural selection and maybe increase the average IQ a little in this country. The issue is that when the stupid people get sick and expect that they are entitled to free health care because they didn't want to pay for anything but cheeper insurance with very little benefits, then sucks to be you. There is a reason and place for mandatory health care as I don't have to pay for some dumb ass who didn't want to pay for insurance. There is a balance, that is all I'm saying. But why should my family pay $25K for health insurance UNDER ACCA when others get it for free? And just so I'm clear, I believe in medical across the board and a flat tax. This doesn't make me a Liberal, it just levels out the playing field as I'm tired of paying $25K for health insurance per year with no discounts because I don't qualify for shit as I've worked my ass off and been successful. Supreme court... well, that's a shit storm as I don't feel as though I should HAVE TO live by the same values of the last 200 years as I just want to be left alone to live how I want to. I'd be more than happy to hear what those values are and pick the ones I want for myself. All I have to do though is look at the people who go to church and know that they aren't living their lives as the good book suggests and see the hypocrisy. My brother was "born again" and watches porn all the time saying "God knows I'm week and will forgive me"... he's a hypocrite. Period. I don't want anyone telling me how to live. I believe in Pro Choice not because I believe in abortion... on the contrary, I most certainly do not and I choose life. But I shore in crap don't want anyone telling me I'm wrong nor will I say you are wrong for your views. Leave me the hell alone and I'll leave you alone. We are too regulated in this country for everything and why... we must have more stupid people than the rest of the world... must be. I like my guns too and eating fatty foods, but I know both can kill me in excess and I don't need 40 + guns or 3 square meals of lard and I choose not to have or do either.
@Bill Martin. Sorry for the verbal puke I'm about to do, but I'm a bit like @BONES and tired of it all...
I think there is a balance to everything. I am VERY much for capitalism and hate big government. Don't like regulations. It's kind of like seat belt laws... I ware my seat belt as I believe the data behind waring one makes it a smart thing to do. But I also don't like to be told you must ware one. If people want to not ware one... so be it. I call that natural selection and maybe increase the average IQ a little in this country. The issue is that when the stupid people get sick and expect that they are entitled to free health care because they didn't want to pay for anything but cheeper insurance with very little benefits, then sucks to be you. There is a reason and place for mandatory health care as I don't have to pay for some dumb ass who didn't want to pay for insurance. There is a balance, that is all I'm saying. But why should my family pay $25K for health insurance UNDER ACCA when others get it for free? And just so I'm clear, I believe in medical across the board and a flat tax. This doesn't make me a Liberal, it just levels out the playing field as I'm tired of paying $25K for health insurance per year with no discounts because I don't qualify for shit as I've worked my ass off and been successful. Supreme court... well, that's a shit storm as I don't feel as though I should HAVE TO live by the same values of the last 200 years as I just want to be left alone to live how I want to. I'd be more than happy to hear what those values are and pick the ones I want for myself. All I have to do though is look at the people who go to church and know that they aren't living their lives as the good book suggests and see the hypocrisy. My brother was "born again" and watches porn all the time saying "God knows I'm week and will forgive me"... he's a hypocrite. Period. I don't want anyone telling me how to live. I believe in Pro Choice not because I believe in abortion... on the contrary, I most certainly do not and I choose life. But I shore in crap don't want anyone telling me I'm wrong nor will I say you are wrong for your views. Leave me the hell alone and I'll leave you alone. We are too regulated in this country for everything and why... we must have more stupid people than the rest of the world... must be. I like my guns too and eating fatty foods, but I know both can kill me in excess and I don't need 40 + guns or 3 square meals of lard and I choose not to have or do either.
Sounds like your kinduva libertarian to me and that is not a bad thing. I am a life long Republican cause I got no place else to go with a viable candidate for me. I like what you say about Obamacare - it really sucks if you have been successful!! I, like you, believe in personal responsibility for the choices you make. The liberal Dems wanna make decisions for us that will take more and more out of our pockets and give it to the slackers. The Rep talk a good game but don’t seem smart enough to get out of their own way. Now we are 8 years moving left now looks like at least of 4 years undoing all of that. Where does that leave us??? Trillions of dollars further in debt and we the taxpayer don’t seem to be any better off. Until We the People wise up and vote out every elected official and keep doing so until things change for the better - it won’t!!
O', sorry... while I'm puking all my views up... I am FOR ACA. As a friend of mine said he hated it, I looked at him and said "but you were happy paying 15-20% more for what you had per year?" The bottom line is SOMETHING had and HAS to be done. It was NOT perfect and has many issues and MUST be fixed. De-funding it isn't an answer. We have a GREAT country and yet we rank 37th in the world for health care? How fricken pathetic. A blanket insurance for all levels out the playing field and having the ability to have a secondary insurance on top of that and a choice of that insurance is a perfect solution just like several other countries have. But why won't we do that? It's because of only two words by the way.... "Insurance" and "Lobbyists". ... but that's just my opinion.
Sounds like your kinduva libertarian to me and that is not a bad thing. I am a life long Republican cause I got no place else to go with a viable candidate for me. I like what you say about Obamacare - it really sucks if you have been successful!! I, like you, believe in personal responsibility for the choices you make. The liberal Dems wanna make decisions for us that will take more and more out of our pockets and give it to the slackers. The Rep talk a good game but don’t seem smart enough to get out of their own way. Now we are 8 years moving left now looks like at least of 4 years undoing all of that. Where does that leave us??? Trillions of dollars further in debt and we the taxpayer don’t seem to be any better off. Until We the People wise up and vote out every elected official and keep doing so until things change for the better - it won’t!!
Nothing they are doing is "helping" the people and shore in hell not the middle class. Tax cuts? What the hell? What do YOU do when you have a loan you have to pay for? Do you say "I think I need to decrease the amount of money I bring in". WTF? We were balanced when Bill Clinton was in office and spent all of this in the war, then fighting the fight to not have another great depression. Did we have to spend all that was spent with Obama... who the hell knows. But what do we have here and now? Debt. Why are we giving the top 1% a 10% tax cut when we have TRILLIONS to pay back? The only way to keep the economy moving forward is with the middle class spending money. This is basic economics people! So how do you pay down trillions of dollars while keeping the middle class afloat and able to keep spending? You give the middle class a small tax cut and you keep the money coming in from the people who can afford it the most like the top 1%. Trump is going to kill this country in a vary short period of time. So yes... you asked if I believe if we would have been better off with Hillary at the wheel... UNFORTUNATELY... more and more each week I do believe this and it sickens me. Both parties need to start running this country responsibly as right now... this aint it. I did for just a little bit of time believe Trump would be the best thing for this country. Now... I'm tired of the Trump show and what it's costing this country.
PS... and I'm NOT for taxing the top money makers MORE. I like my money and I'm sure they do to. What I'm saying is that they shouldn't be able to pay LESS than we all do. I think it unfair to say as most liberals do that they should pay more because they can afford it... that wrong. But they shore in the hell shouldn't be paying less and in most cases, that is what is happening.
I would NEVER say we would be better off with Hellary than Trump!! I have made a LOT of money since Trump took office in the stock market. It looks like the GDP will exceed anything Obama did in 8 years very quickly which will generate billions to pay down the debt. Imma send you a copy of Hillary’s Book
The wicked witch is gone from politics forever with Pelosi and Maxine Waters and Schumer not far behind !! Rep got some foul ones need to go also! If you want the Cliff notes on Hillary’s book here ya go
Fair enough @Bill Martin. I'm not even going to disagree with any of that. But I'll send you the other copies too...
and PS... we don't need "generate billions to pay down the debt"... we need Trillions. It's like saying you need to pay your SS off and open a lemonade stand to pay it off... not going to happen without other sources and a tax cut for the wealthy isn't going to do it. And I'm not against a tax cut, just do it responsibly. Giving the middle class 1.2% while you take a 10% one... how is that right?
@Bill Martin ... "Where does that leave us??? Trillions of dollars further in debt and we the taxpayer don’t seem to be any better off. Until We the People wise up and vote out every elected official and keep doing so until things change for the better - it won’t!!"
Couldn't agree more. The issue is both Republican and Democrat parties SUCK. I'm NOT a big fan of our two party system and what it has become. But I'm also tired of the fear mongering that goes on between them and the stupid people that can't think for themselves or look at history as an example of what not to do. I'm an Independent as I too have no place interjecting thought into either party. Can we start a new party ... SlingShot or bust? It's got to be better and shore in shit going to spurn on the economy with the amount of money we spend on upgrades. 
Well, I'll be shoving my political head in the sand until elections... Why?? Cause I'm going riding this weekend and blowing stuff up with some forum family! Besides, nothing we do or say will change anything at this point (well, maybe to the level of people's butt hurt)... So try not to butt hurt each other and lets go riding! 
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